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Re: Russian invasion of Crimea

Post by prado67 » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:49 pm

Fusilier wrote:Watch closely - this weekend and next week could bring a new war :( If Russia is going to attack Ukraine it's going to be in a very near future and this is why:
1. Russia now has now gathered no less than 30 000 troops near Ukrainian border in Kursk, Voronezh and Rostov. These are battle ready troops from best divisions witch are ready to move in eastern Ukraine. They are on high alert level. The second line of Russian troops consists of ~ 100 000 troops. Whoever served in military knows that such massive dislocation of army means no exercises. Also Russians have gathered great number of troops in Crimea and Transnistria.
2. Although Ukraine managed to gather their Army troops and deploy them in eastern regions, but their capabilities are very low also inner political crisis is not healthy for combat spirit. There could be united exercises on the end of April - May with US troops, so Russia would strike while where are no American soldiers on Ukrainian soil and NATO support is still weak.
3. There is new military draft in Russia next week, that means experienced soldiers could go home.
4. The weather is very good for Russian vehicles.

I only hope that Putin still have some sense in him...
Russia doesn't need to attack Ukraine, what for? it is typical thought of the russophob - eternal fear of attack of evil Russians. to us is unnecessary to attack anybody - at us the problems suffice. And that that we carry out doctrines, about it was told long ago and where we will carry out them in the territory is our business. And 30000 people - unless it are a lot of? Especially for 3 areas. Though for the person, in whose state the army makes only 3 or 4 thousand people is Much. And that likely a half of them - gays. European tolerance! The main thing that during fight they the enemy were engaged, instead of the friend the friend. Ah yes, I forgot, you still have 2 or 3 tanks. With the friend long laughed when watched on TV parade of the Latvian armed forces and at the end of parade the announcer the Latvian told that the Latvian army has 2 more or 3 tanks. Who wants to look at this the video I can give the reference in YouTube
In the Crimea only those armies who from the Ukrainian army passed into our army and one our base. In Transnistria too only our peacekeepers and all! From where there is so much lie? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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Re: Russian invasion of Crimea

Post by prado67 » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:10 pm

rik_uk3 wrote:Old Vladimir has his eye on Finland too
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 24273.html

Doubt that would be a walkover for any Russian forces trying to take it though.
I read, I laughed! What nonsense! ! ! What nonsense write in your newspapers!
Escape! ! ! ! Russians go! ! ! !
P.S. By the way, hello to Obama!
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Re: Russian invasion of Crimea

Post by prado67 » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:16 pm

dirtbag wrote:Perhaps Russian tanks will finally roll thru the Fulda Gap, with Vlad riding the first tank, with his shirt off... :lol: :lol: :lol:

BAD case of small man syndrome!

If it wasn't for all the nukes, Russia is very much a third world country, nekulturny too...
dirtbag, you well done! Indeed!
Vlad on the tank, but in a shirt because it is still cold. It goes, and Obama looks at it. I even have a thought as it will look. He will take off a shirt later when will wash feet about California.
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Re: Russian invasion of Crimea

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prado67 wrote:
Fusilier wrote:Watch closely - this weekend and next week could bring a new war :( If Russia is going to attack Ukraine it's going to be in a very near future and this is why:
1. Russia now has now gathered no less than 30 000 troops near Ukrainian border in Kursk, Voronezh and Rostov. These are battle ready troops from best divisions witch are ready to move in eastern Ukraine. They are on high alert level. The second line of Russian troops consists of ~ 100 000 troops. Whoever served in military knows that such massive dislocation of army means no exercises. Also Russians have gathered great number of troops in Crimea and Transnistria.
2. Although Ukraine managed to gather their Army troops and deploy them in eastern regions, but their capabilities are very low also inner political crisis is not healthy for combat spirit. There could be united exercises on the end of April - May with US troops, so Russia would strike while where are no American soldiers on Ukrainian soil and NATO support is still weak.
3. There is new military draft in Russia next week, that means experienced soldiers could go home.
4. The weather is very good for Russian vehicles.

I only hope that Putin still have some sense in him...
Russia doesn't need to attack Ukraine, what for? It is typical thought of the russophob - eternal fear of attack of evil Russians. To us is unnecessary to attack anybody - at us the problems suffice. And that that we carry out doctrines, about it was told long ago and where we will carry out them in the territory is our business. And 30000 people - unless it are a lot of? Especially for 3 areas. Though for the person, in whose state the army makes only 3 or 4 thousand people is Much. And that 3000-4000 people likely a half of them - gays or transvestites. European tolerance! The main thing that during fight they the enemy were engaged, instead of the friend the friend. Ah yes, I forgot, you still have 2 or 3 tanks. With the friend long laughed when watched on TV parade of the Latvian armed forces and at the end of parade the announcer the Latvian told that the Latvian army has 2 more or 3 tanks. Who wants to look at this the video I can give the reference in YouTube
In the Crimea only those armies who from the Ukrainian army passed into our army and one our base. In Transnistria too only our peacekeepers and all! From where there is so much lie? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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Re: Russian invasion of Crimea

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Well and finally I will give you, dear participants of a forum (except a male individual from Latvia) to read the list of war crimes of the country which always rescues us that from the zombie, from aliens, from terrorists (whom also I prepared before). The country which is the Democracy Torch around the world and bears the infection democracy worldwide by wars, bombardments, murders, captures, etc.
Pleasant reading.
1973 - Doomsday war. Syria and Egypt against Israel. America helps Israel the weapon.
1973 - Uruguay. The American military help at the revolution, brought to total terror over all country.
1974 - Zaire. The government is given military support, the purpose of the USA - capture of natural resources of the country. America doesn't confuse that all money (1,4 million) is appropriated by Mobutu Sese Seko, the leader of the country as doesn't confuse her and that it actively applies tortures, flings opponents in prisons without court, plunders the starving population, etc.
1974 - Portugal. Financial support of pro-American forces on elections for the sake of prevention of decolonization of the country, which before 48 years of rules loyal the USA a fascist mode. At coast of Portugal a large-scale exercise of NATO with the purpose to intimidate opponents is carried out.
1974 - Cyprus. Americans support a military coup which had to bring to power of the agent of CIA Nikos Sampson. Revolution failed, but the Turks who have intruded to Cyprus and still remaining there used temporary chaos.
1975 - Morocco occupies Western Sahara with military support of the USA, despite condemnation of the international community. Remuneration - America military bases in the territory of the country allowed to arrange.
1975 - Australia. Americans help to dump democratically elected prime minister Edward Vitlem.
1975 - two-day attack to Cambodia when the local government arrested the American trade vessel.
1975 - 2002 - prosovetski the adjusted government of Angola faced resistance growth from movement of "UNITA" which was supported by the Republic of South Africa and intelligence services of the USA.
1975 - 2003 - East Timor. In December, 1975, day later after departure of the U.S. President Ford from Indonesia which has become the most valuable tool of the USA in YuVA, Sukharto's soldiery from blessing of the USA intruded on the island and used the American weapon in this aggression. K of 1989 the Indonesian armies pursuing the aim violently to annex Timor, destroyed 200 thousand people from its 600-thousand population. The USA support claims of Indonesia to Timor, give support of this aggression and diminish bloodshed scales on the island.
1978 - Guatemala. The military and economic help to the pro-American dictator Loukas Garsiye who entered one of the most repressive modes of this country. More than 20.000 civilians were destroyed with the financial help of the USA.
1979 - 1981 . A series of military coups in the Seychelles - the small state at East coast of Africa. B to preparation of revolutions and invasions of mercenaries took part the French, South African and American intelligence services.
1979 - Central Africa. Over 100 children were killed when they arranged protest action against a duty to buy school uniforms only in the shops belonging to the president. The international community condemned this murder and put pressure upon the country. A heavy minute to the Central Africa came to the rescue of the USA to which this pro-American government was favorable. America that "emperor" of Jean-Bedel Bokassa personally took part in a slaughter then ate some killed children at all didn't confuse.
1979 - Yemen. America gives military help to insurgents to please Saudi Arabia.
1980-1992 . El Salvador. Under the pretext of an aggravation of internal fight in the country developing into civil war, the USA expanded in the beginning the military presence at El Salvador at the expense of the direction of advisers, and then joined in carrying out special operations with use of military and espionage capacity of the Pentagon and Langley on a constant basis. As the proof of it that about 20 Americans were lost serves or got wounds as a result of accidents of helicopters and planes during performance of investigation or other missions over a battlefield. There is also evidence of participation of the USA in land operations.
The 1980th in Honduras work the military teams of death prepared and paid by the USA. The number of the killed victims in this country was estimated in tens of thousands. Many officers of those teams of death had training in the United States. Honduras was turned by the USA into the military base for fight against El Salvador and Nicaragua.
1980 - the military help to Iraq for the sake of destabilization of a new anti-American mode of Iran. War lasts 10 years, the number of the killed is estimated at one million. America protests when the UN tries to condemn aggression of Iraq. Besides, the USA clean Iraq from the list of "the nations supporting terrorism". At the same time America secretly transports the weapon to Iran through Israel in hope to arrange pro-American revolution.
1980 - Cambodia. Under pressure of the USA the World Food Program organization transfers to Thailand products to the sum of 12 million dollars, red Khmers, the previous government of Cambodia which is responsible for destruction of 2,5 million people for 4 years of board get these products. Besides, America, Germany and Sweden supply Pol Pot's adherents with the weapon through Singapore, gangs of red Khmers terrorize Cambodia 10 more years after falling of their mode.
1980 - Italy. As part of the operation "Gladio" America arranges explosion at the Bologna railway station, 86 people perish. The purpose - discredit of communists on upcoming elections.
1980 - South Korea. With support of Americans thousands participants of demonstration in Kwangju city are killed. The protest was directed against application of tortures, the mass arrests, the forged elections and personally against the American puppet of Chun Doo Hwan. Years later Ronald Reagan told it that that "made a lot of things for the sake of maintenance of five-thousand-year tradition of commitment to freedom".
1981 - Zambia. America very much didn't like the government of this country since it didn't support apartheid so loved by the USA in South Africa. Therefore Americans try to organize revolution which Zambian dissidents had to carry out with support of the South African groups. Attempt of revolution failed.
1981 - The USA force down 2 Libyan planes. This act of terrorism was directed on destabilization of the anti-American government of M. Kadaffi. Model maneuvers at coast of Libya were at the same time carried out. Кадаффи supported Palestinians in fight for independence and I overthrew the previous pro-American government.
1981 - 1990 - Nicaragua. CIA directs invasion into the country of insurgents and the min. installation. After falling of dictatorship of Samosa and coming to power of sandinist in 1978 of the USA it became clear that in Latin America there can be "one more Cuba". The president Carter resorted to revolution sabotage in a diplomatic and economic form. Reagan who has replaced it relied on force. At that time Nicaragua was poor among the most poor countries on a planet: in the country there were only five elevators and the unique escalator and that didn't work. But Reagan declared that Nicaragua represents terrible danger for now he made the speech, on television showed the map of the United States which was filled in with red paint, as though representing danger going from Nicaragua. Within 8 years the people of Nicaragua were exposed to attacks контрас, the created USA from the remains of guard of Samosa and other supporters of the dictator. They developed total war against all progressive social and economic programs of the government. Reyganovskiye "fighters for freedom" burned schools and clinics, were engaged in violence and tortures, bombardments and executions of peace people
1982 - The government of the South African Republic of Suriname starts carrying out socialist reforms and invites the Cuban advisers. Intelligence services of the USA support the democratic and working organizations. In 1984 the pro-socialist government retires as a result of well organized national excitements.
1982 - 1983 - act of terrorism of 800 American marines against Lebanon. Again numerous victims.
1982 - Guatemala. America helps to come to the power to the general of Efrain Rios Montt. In 17 months of board it destroyed 400 Indian villages.
1983 - military intervention to Grenada about 2 thousand marines. Hundreds lives are ruined. On Grenada there was a revolution as a result of which forces of the left orientation came to the power. The new government of this small island country tried to carry out economic reforms by means of Cuba and the USSR. It frightened the USA which are extremely afraid of "export" of the Cuban revolution.
1983 - destabilizatsionny activity in Angola: support of armed antigovernmental forces, acts of terrorism and sabotage at the enterprises
1984 - Americans force down 2 Iranian planes.
1984 - America continues to finance antigovernmental fighters in Nicaragua.
1985 - Chad. The government headed by the president of Habre, was supported by Americans and French. This repressive mode actively used the most terrible tortures, burning of people alive and other technicians of intimidation of the population: electroshocks, insertion of an exhaust pipe of the car to the person in a mouth, the contents in one camera with decaying corpses and Famine-Genocide. Destruction of hundreds peasants in the south of the country is documented. Training and mode financing - at the expense of Americans.
1985 - Honduras. The USA direct there specialists in tortures and military advisers for Nicaraguan контрас, become famous for the cruelty and sophisticated tortures. Cooperation of America with influential drug dealers. As compensation the government of Honduras receives 231 mln. dollars.
1986 - attack to Libya. Bombings of Tripoli and Benghazi. Numerous victims. The act of terrorism organized by agents of the Libyan intelligence services in a disco in the Western Berlin, popular among the military personnel of the USA became an occasion.
1986 - 1987 - "Tanker war" between Iraq and Iran - attack of aircraft and the Navies of the conflicting parties on oil fields and tankers.
1986 - Colombia. Support by America of a pro-American mode - "for fight against drugs" is transferred to Colombia the mass of military equipment after the Colombian government showed the fidelity of the USA: in "social cleanings", i.e. at destruction of leaders of labor unions and members of any in the slightest degree significant movements and the organizations, peasants and objectionable politicians, it "cleared" the country of the anti-American and antigovernmental elements. Brutal tortures were actively applied
1986 - 2000 - national excitements to Haiti. The American puppet of "Baby Doc" Duvalier runs by means of the USA with the stolen millions to France. Attempt of the USA to establish a new puppet leads to the disorders proceeding of 4 years.
1987 - 1988 - The USA helps Iraq with war against Iran not only the weapon, but also bombardments. Besides, America and England provide to Iraq weapons of mass destruction, including deadly gas with which 6000 civilians of the Kurdish village of Halabja were poisoned. Bush gave this case in premilitary rhetoric as a justification of the American aggression of 2003. That the chemical weapon was provided by America which wanted to replace any the anti-American mode of Iran, of course, he "forgot" to mention.
1988 - 1990 - El Salvador. The military and financial help of the USA to the pro-American government for "fight against communists". This fight in mass destruction of political opponents "death crews", entering in governmental "Army of National Rescue" was expressed. So, women hung up on trees for their hair and cut off breasts, to them cut out interiors around genitals and put on them the person. To men cut off genitals and thrust them into a mouth, children broke off a barbed wire in the face of parents. All this became for democracy by means of the American experts, annually some thousands of people so perished.
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1992 - in Iraq pro-American revolution which had to replace Hussein with the citizen of the USA of Sa'd Salih Jabr fails.
1993 - Americans help Yeltsin to carry out execution of several hundred people at storm of the Supreme Council.
1993 - 1995 - Bosnia. Patrol during civil war of the zones forbidden for flights; the brought-down planes, bombings of Serbians.
1994 - 1996 - Iraq. Attempt to dump Hussein by destabilization in the country. Per day bombings didn't stop, people perished for hunger and diseases because of sanctions, explosions in public places constantly were arranged, thus Americans used the terrorist organization the Iraq national congress (INA).
1994 - 1996 - Haiti. The blockade directed against the military government; armies reinstate as the president Aristide in 3 years after revolution.
1994 - Rwanda. History dark, a lot of things should be found out still, but now it is possible to tell the following. Under leadership of the agent of CIA Jonas Savimbi in the country it was cut out apprx. 800 thousand people. And it was first reported about three million, but over the years the number decreases in proportion to growth of number of mythical Stalin repressions. It is a question of ethnic cleanings - destruction of the people of the Hutu.
1995 - Mexico. The American government sponsors campaign for fight against Sapatistami. Under a look "fight against drugs" there is a fight for territories which are attractive to the American companies. Helicopters are applied to destruction of locals with machine guns, rockets and bombs. Trained CIA of a gang cuts out the population and widely applies tortures.
1995 - Croatia. Bombing of airfields of the Serbian Kraina before approach of Croats.
1996 - On July 17, 1996 flight 800 of TWA airline blew up in the evening sky near the island Long Aylend and collapsed to the Atlantic Ocean - all 230 people onboard were lost. There are strong evidences that the Boeing was brought down by the American rocket. The motivation of this attack isn't established, among the main versions - a mistake during doctrines and elimination of the objectionable person aboard.
1996 - Rwanda. 6000 civilians are destroyed by governmental armies which are trained and financed by America and South Africa. In the western mass media this event was ignored.
1996 - Congo. The Ministry of Defence of the USA secretly participated in wars in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC).
1997 - Americans suited a series of explosions in the Cuban hotels.
1998 - Sudan. Americans destroy rocket attack pharmaceutical plant, claiming that it makes nervous gas. As this plant made 90% of drugs of the country, and import them from abroad Americans, naturally, forbade, the death of tens of thousands of people became result of rocket attack. They simply couldn't be treated.
1998 - Afghanistan. Blow to the CIA former training camps used by Islamic fundamentalist groups.
1999 - ignoring norms of international law, bypassing the UN and Security council, the United States NATO forces launched campaign of 78-day air bombings of the sovereign state of Yugoslavia.
2001 - invasion into Afghanistan. Typical program of Americans: the tortures, the forbidden weapon, mass destruction of civilians, assurances about fast restoration of the country which remained statements; use of the impoverished uranium and, at last, fabricated "proof" of participation of bin Laden to acts of terrorism on September 11, 2001, based on doubtful video with an illegible sound and person absolutely unlike bin Laden.
2001 - Americans chase across all Macedonia the Albanian terrorists from Liberation army of Kosovo who were trained and armed by Americans for fight against Serbians.
2002 - Americans enter armies to Philippines since are afraid there of national excitements.
2002 - 2004 - Venezuela. In 2002 of century there was a pro-American revolution, the opposition illegally displaced the popular president Hugo Chávez.
2003 - "anti-terrorist operation" on Philippines.
2003 - Iraq.
2003 - Syria.
2003 - Revolution in Georgia. While a little that is known of it, but the separate facts allow to see behind it, as usual, asinine ears of the USA. Directly help of the Georgian opposition was given by the ambassador of the USA in Tbilisi Richard Miles, that is it became from the sanction of the White house.
2004 - Haiti. Anti-government protests proceeded to Haiti within several weeks. Insurgents occupied the main towns of Haiti. The president Jean-Bertrand Aristide ran. Storm of the capital of the country Port-au-Prince was postponed by insurgents on request of the USA. America enters armies.
2004 - after quite sluggish fight against the president of Belarus Lukashenko, America seriously undertook the organization of the anti-Russian "democratic" revolution in the country.
2004 - Revolution attempt in Equatorial Guinea where there are solid stocks of oil.
1999 - ignoring norms of international law, bypassing the UN and Security council, the United States NATO forces launched campaign of 78-day air bombings of the sovereign state of Yugoslavia.
2001 - invasion into Afghanistan. Typical program of Americans: the tortures, the forbidden weapon, mass destruction of civilians, assurances about fast restoration of the country which remained statements; use of the impoverished uranium and, at last, fabricated "proof" of participation of bin Laden to acts of terrorism on September 11, 2001, based on doubtful video with an illegible sound and person absolutely unlike bin Laden.
2001 - Americans chase across all Macedonia the Albanian terrorists from Liberation army of Kosovo who were trained and armed by Americans for fight against Serbians.
2002 - Americans enter armies to Philippines since are afraid there of national excitements.
2002 - 2004 - Venezuela. In 2002 of century there was a pro-American revolution, the opposition illegally displaced the popular president Hugo Chávez.
2003 - "anti-terrorist operation" on Philippines.
2003 - Iraq.
2003 - Syria.
2003 - Revolution in Georgia. While a little that is known of it, but the separate facts allow to see behind it, as usual, asinine ears of the USA. Directly help of the Georgian opposition was given by the ambassador of the USA in Tbilisi Richard Miles, that is it became from the sanction of the White house.
2004 - Haiti. Anti-government protests proceeded to Haiti within several weeks. Insurgents occupied the main towns of Haiti. The president Jean-Bertrand Aristide ran. Storm of the capital of the country Port-au-Prince was postponed by insurgents on request of the USA. America enters armies.
2004 - after quite sluggish fight against the president of Belarus Lukashenko, America seriously undertook the organization of the anti-Russian "democratic" revolution in the country.
2004 - Revolution attempt in Equatorial Guinea where there are solid stocks of oil.
2010- Libya
2011 - Syria
2013- Ukraine
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Re: Russian invasion of Crimea

Post by Bypah » Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:31 pm

Товарищ,
что бы вы сказать или написать они так близко единомышленников, что они никогда не понять. :mrgreen: :lol:
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Re: Russian invasion of Crimea

Post by fdsman » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:28 pm

Bypah wrote:comrade
what would you say or write they are so close minded that they will never understand. :mrgreen: :lol:
Closed minded? This is probably the most hilarious thing I've ever read. While you remain willfully ignorant to the facts of the slaughter of those who dared to oppose the communists in the soviet union, you continue to support policies and ideals that have already failed.

http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM

I suppose you'll tell me with your advanced knowledge of "sovietology" that these are all capitalist, imperialist lies and that the grand idea of communism never spilled a drop of blood to achieve it's goals.

I've asked this question in the past, and I'll ask it again, why don't you move to Cuba or another communist state where this rule has already been established where your ideals are in practice, instead of aiding in the conversion of the United States to a socialist, and eventually communist state? Last time I asked this question many years ago, you dodged it and simply asked me in response "why don't you move?" And my answer to that is because I love what ideals this country original stood for, and I fully intend to support them as long as I'm still breathing. I do not hate that of which has made this country great, why would I want to leave such a place where my ideals have come to pass?
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Re: Russian invasion of Crimea

Post by Fusilier » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:45 am

1. How is that whoever tells something against Russia suddenly becomes russofob and nazi? :mrgreen:
2. In Ukraine, Russia is clearly the aggressor. We can see same patterns of military actions in eastern Ukraine as we saw in Crimea: diversion groups, spec-ps etc. Sample: https://twitter.com/euromaidan/status/4 ... to/1/large. There is no need to list true and false USA actions. It reminds my of cold war, when Western countries criticized Soviet Union for human rights, wars, many other thins and Soviet Union always had only one answer: "Oh yeah? But You are Lynching Negroes!"
3. As a citizen of country which was 50 years occupied by Russians I voted for joining EU and NATO and I am fully confident in NATO reactions to Russian aggression. I mean not only military operations, but also economical, energy sanctions, dirty propaganda etc. We see every day.
4. I am Lithuanian NOT Latvian. We don't have tanks as We don't need them: tank is an offensive weapon and We're not planing to invade our neighboring countries :wink:

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Re: Russian invasion of Crimea

Post by prado67 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:07 pm

Bypah wrote:Товарищ,
что бы вы сказать или написать они так близко единомышленников, что они никогда не понять. :mrgreen: :lol:
We will begin one after another.
Naturally anybody never here will support me because the West is grown up on hatred to Russia. This hatred and fear drum since the birth
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