Russian Ration at Ebay Ger

YouTube · Post by **housil** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:26 am

kman wrote: What conditions were they in?

Seller wrote:

Das Datum der Herstellung 03.03.2008 (date of production)
Die Haltbarkeitsdauer 01.01.2010 (best before)

Why is it just 22 month and not 2 years?

Do yourself a favor and read his description via Babelfish

and understand why this ration won a gold medal award "honorable first place"

Mkim340518 · Post by **Mkim340518** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:34 am

Hey Housil!!

My babelfish won't freakin translate the page...can you tell me why he says that they got a honorable gold medal MENTION???

Post by **kman** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:42 am

I've switched over to http://translate.google.com lately - it seems to do a better job for me. Unfortunately, eBay has done something with their web pages lately that really causes problems for translators (and people trying to save pages in .mht format). So I just dropped the text of the auction into google translate and got this:

With the given a food ration is the personal existence of the Russian Federation armed forces, fulfilling the tasks under conditions of extraordinary situation that the armed conflict, in peace operations. This can an uninterrupted diet of personal stock given to the ration up to 7 days.

The range of products, which in the present ration which counts more 20 nominations. The basis of the ration, the canned meat, vegetables and meat, the meat plants-(600 grams) in the semi "lamister" packaging.

The lamister packaging is not of the gases versäumenden material from the polypropylene (the inner layer termo-welded to deal with the product) and the Aluminiumfolile affect covered by the layer of paint epoksi-phenol. The lamister thickness is 0.175 0.25 mm. This material is for the fats, the counters on the Alkalis and the acids inert, endures the heat up to 1400 С without changing the original characteristics. If the press well true.

The good warm-wire lamister characteristics thanks, the time the sterilization of canned up to 20% compared to the canning in the blechernen bank reduced that to the fiziko-chemical and taste of the product figures reflected favourable.
For the warming of the preserved part of the ration includes the portative heaters.

From the products in accordance with the specific food technologies, deserve the sublimation of the milk drink Dörrkringels, drinks dry, the fruch tKonserven, which supplements the vegetables-grits, produced by the method and ekstrusion Army Breutchen the wheat flour with 1 Variety Shelf life of up to 3 years interest.

The products of the ration IPR-B are currently the plastic packaging, guarantees their protection not only from the influence of rainfall, but also by the radioactive substances and vergiftenden packed.
The food and biological value is to:
-- The whites - 115
-- The fat - 147
-- Carbohydrates 353
Energetic values ИРП-Б - 3191 к call.

At the International Exhibition in Geneva in 1997, the individual ration a food fight-IRP-B (ИРП-Б), compared to the similar rations of the armies of NATO and the Bundeswehr, the honourable geeinnommen first place.
The gold medal "The best domestic product" (IV All-Russian exhibition "The Russian producers and the supply of the armed forces," the November 2004
The gold medal "The sign of quality XXI century" (12 International exhibition "of National Glory" and the competition "the All-Russian Mark. (III millennium). The character of the quality XXI century")

Appointment packaging quantity
Army Breutchen bundle 50g 4
Geschmortes beef glass whose 4L (250g) 1
Filling [sosage] "specifically" Glass dess.1L (100g) 1
Canned meat-and-vegetables (porridge road rice with beef or (with pork) Glass dess. 4L (250g) 1
Pate with garlic Glass dess. 1L (75g) 1
Boiled pea briquette (60g) 1
Sauce package (60g) 1
Drink milk-dry package (30g) 1
Coffee auflösbar package (2g) 1
Auflösbar tea with the sugar package (16g) 1
Concentrate for the drink package (25g) 1
Sugar package (15g) 5
Fruit jam package (45g) 2
Portable heating St. 1
Hygienic napkins St. 3
Paper napkins St. 3
Match (are against a wind and a solid moisturee) Packaging (6 pcs) 1
Means of disinfection of water "Akvatabs" Package 3
More Vitamins COMPLIVIT "St. 1
Spoon (plastic) St. 1
Opener (sculpture) St. 1

Net weight of 1.4 kg

The date of manufacture 03.03.2008
The shelf life of 01.01.2010

Made in Russia ( "OBORONPRODKOMPLEKT")

The shipping from Russia is 19.00 EURO (Russian airmail)

Mkim340518 · Post by **Mkim340518** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:58 am

Thanks Kman

So, after reading that it seems that they won a rations "battle" in '97 in Geneva. But, it seems like they got a honorable mention of first place?.?.?. what the hell does that mean Honorable mention for first place? So, that means that they almost won but, didn't and a judge just gave them a pat on the back? I mean what the hell? And who were they competing against besides the German military? Mongolia? Eritria? I mean come on...
The other two contests seem like they were against other russian manufacturers and they won both...against OTHER RUSSIAN MANUFACTURERS...

So this proves and establishes the fact that these rations still are dog poop, the ration "competitions" they won are bullshit and that they're not worth even half of the asking price.

fieldtest · Post by **fieldtest** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:58 am

Ouch - these machine translators

As a native german I can say that the german text in the auction must be machine translated from another language - the semantics are in most cases not german (but the words are, of course and I think someone has improved the text a little bit after the translation).
Now the next man translates it with a machine to english, so maybe from russian to german to english. Let´s shift it to french and then back to german

Maybe it improves the readability *lol*

Richard w. · Post by **Richard w.** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:46 am

Definitely a desirable item.

If someone would sell these in volume for a more reasonable price, they would go like hotcakes (for the novelty, not the quality of the food).

If they are too greedy, they will get stuck with them.

Mkim340518 · Post by **Mkim340518** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:45 am

Richard w. wrote:Definitely a desirable item.

If someone would sell these in volume for a more reasonable price, they would go like hotcakes (for the novelty, not the quality of the food).

If they are too greedy, they will get stuck with them.

AGREED, DEFINITELY!! It is a very cool item to have in the collection especially for all of us ration fanatics.

Bypah · Post by **Bypah** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:51 am

I agree with both Mkim and Richard W.

If they lower the prices they could be sold faster.... As a soviet memorabilia collector I would buy a few,specially the VDV's and its different variants....So far I have one, a Helo pilots ration in a bag....

Too bad those "tovarisch" are more interested in earning our "rubles"....lol

donaldjcheek · Post by **donaldjcheek** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:43 pm

Historically, rations in both the Soviet Union and the Russian Federation are bad. The high-starch, high-fat, low quality content has been maintained consistently through Soviet/Russian ration history.

Soldiers in the 1980s complained about greasy, tasteless canned mush in the mountains of Afghanistan, and their sons are eating pretty much the same stuff in Chechnya. Only the packaging has changed.

Bypah · Post by **Bypah** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:41 pm

yep... at least is not bread and water.....lol
They eat better than their grandparents in WWII.....
One thing i like is the vodka ration....Stoli....yummmmmm

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