Diethylene Glycol - Trioxane tablet Replacement
Diethylene Glycol - Trioxane tablet Replacement
Has anyone used/seen these? I have a few boxes of Trioxane and when I use them up I want to try to get some of the Diethylene Glycol Gel instead. I can't really seem to find it anywhere fo sale. From what I have seen the 3 pack gel, is about the same price as a Trioxane box of 3.
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Greenheat packs
http://www.soldierstuff.co.uk/index.php ... db7a8fefcd
£0.40 each and then multiple packs as well. It appears these are really only available in Europe and not North America at this time =(
£0.40 each and then multiple packs as well. It appears these are really only available in Europe and not North America at this time =(
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jfko6
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The Epic Center has the Glycol gel:
http://www.geoduck.com/epicenter/order. ... l&cart_id=
Also Recommended: Mautz Fire Ribbon.
The Epic Center also carries these tubes
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl= ... n%26sa%3DG
http://www.geoduck.com/epicenter/order. ... l&cart_id=
Also Recommended: Mautz Fire Ribbon.
The Epic Center also carries these tubes
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl= ... n%26sa%3DG
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I picked up some of the gel from cheaperthandirt.com a couple of years ago. The stuff seems to work pretty well - kind of like sterno - really goes up fast when you squeeze it all out of the tube. I timed heating up a canteen cup of water with trioxane vs. the gel and it was about the same time - but the gel burned cleaner and didn't smell near as bad.
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You can save your self some money by buying a jar of vaseline in Duane Reade/CVS etc.. dip them in cotton balls, wrap them in a 35mm film canister and you're good to go. Just pull out those MRE matches. An extra lighter or NATO survival matches can be helpful in adverse conditions.
http://www.bestglide.com/Lifeboat_Matches_Info.html
Poof. Fire.
http://www.bestglide.com/Lifeboat_Matches_Info.html
Poof. Fire.
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I've used fire starters for a while now and I have a bit of practice with a bunch of them. And here are a few favorites of mine. I also found if you're out camping or are going to be living outside for a while; you should carry 2 or more DIFFERENT types of fire starters as well as some type of natural or synthetic tinder.
1) The Swedish Fire Steel from light my fire- can be found in EBay, R.E.I., Cabelas, Bass Pro Shop, Target, Wal-Mart, E.M.S., and just about any other outdoor supply store. Purchase for around 15 bucks
Benefits= Small, light, easy to use, reliable and durable and showers sparks onto your tinder.
Con's= You still need to get tinder and make a tinder bundle to get your fire going, if you happen to hit the flint rod against a rock or something hard, when it is extremely cold out it will break.
Overall= it's definitely in my kit, Even with the few con's against this product I would still trust it anyday.
2) WetFire Tinder- can be found in all the places as mentioned above.
Benefits- throughout the many times I have used this product in many various applications I found it to be always reliable. It actually lasts longer when wet and will stay lit longer of you can light the cube and throw it into a canteen cup with water. It can also be shaved down to dust to start a wood fire. No foul odor or smells. And for you S.O. guys this stuff goes out instantly, no smoldering, no smoke, no nothing. If your out in the woods and need a small fire just light a piece of this cube and throw it on the dirt, rocks, puddle..whatever and if the adversary gets to close just step on the fire and TA DAA fire gone as fast as you are.
Con's- The only thing that I can think to hold against this product is that they come in individual foil packages and you get 8 in a box. But, most of the time you don't need to burn a whole cube so you need to find something to put the rest of the cube into. If only they would give you a resealable pouch or something. purchase for 8-10 bucks for a box of 8.
3) Doan's Magnesium and flint bar, Spark Light Aviation survival fire starter(Jeez you'd freeze to death before you finished reading the stupid name LOL) and one of my favorites the Aurora Magnesium Fire Starter(find them on Camping survival.com for 20 bucks!!!)
-The magnesium bar with the flint is cool and all but try using one outside in the cold, wind, rain and at night. The magnesium does burn really hot but you need to SHAVE off a good amount to light a fire and it's almost impossible to use in adverse weather. purchase for 5-7 bucks.
-Spark Light aviation blah blah blah- very good little kit with a very long name but it comes with everything you need in a little snap top plastic box. It comes with it's own tinder tabs that light quickly if used properly, the spark lighter itself is very reliable, can be used with one hand, and is very durable. It also comes with some instructions. Purchase for anywhere from 8-12 bucks.
- Aurora Magnesium Fire Starter- SIMPLY AWESOME...I promise you that this will, for the average person, the last fire starter that you will ever need to buy! It's strong, beefy, quality made, compact, light, can be used in any weather, reliable, and relatively cheap. This will light a cotton ball, that's pulled out to be fluffy, with one strike of the flint rod. The flint rod also has the magnesium impregnated into the flint so you get that immensely hot shower of sparks that you need. The only bad thing is that you need to use two hands to get the sparks going and that I really can't find these things besides at Campingsurvival.com( Tom and his crew are a great bunch of people) ( oh and sorry about mentioning the other website I DO NOT work for them or anything I'm just a loyal customer and fan of their products and would like to share with my fellow MRE addicts the products that I have tested and believe in)
So there are 3 fire starters that I keep. I'll start another thread later with some other tips and tricks with fire starting
Thanks
Mike
1) The Swedish Fire Steel from light my fire- can be found in EBay, R.E.I., Cabelas, Bass Pro Shop, Target, Wal-Mart, E.M.S., and just about any other outdoor supply store. Purchase for around 15 bucks
Benefits= Small, light, easy to use, reliable and durable and showers sparks onto your tinder.
Con's= You still need to get tinder and make a tinder bundle to get your fire going, if you happen to hit the flint rod against a rock or something hard, when it is extremely cold out it will break.
Overall= it's definitely in my kit, Even with the few con's against this product I would still trust it anyday.
2) WetFire Tinder- can be found in all the places as mentioned above.
Benefits- throughout the many times I have used this product in many various applications I found it to be always reliable. It actually lasts longer when wet and will stay lit longer of you can light the cube and throw it into a canteen cup with water. It can also be shaved down to dust to start a wood fire. No foul odor or smells. And for you S.O. guys this stuff goes out instantly, no smoldering, no smoke, no nothing. If your out in the woods and need a small fire just light a piece of this cube and throw it on the dirt, rocks, puddle..whatever and if the adversary gets to close just step on the fire and TA DAA fire gone as fast as you are.
Con's- The only thing that I can think to hold against this product is that they come in individual foil packages and you get 8 in a box. But, most of the time you don't need to burn a whole cube so you need to find something to put the rest of the cube into. If only they would give you a resealable pouch or something. purchase for 8-10 bucks for a box of 8.
3) Doan's Magnesium and flint bar, Spark Light Aviation survival fire starter(Jeez you'd freeze to death before you finished reading the stupid name LOL) and one of my favorites the Aurora Magnesium Fire Starter(find them on Camping survival.com for 20 bucks!!!)
-The magnesium bar with the flint is cool and all but try using one outside in the cold, wind, rain and at night. The magnesium does burn really hot but you need to SHAVE off a good amount to light a fire and it's almost impossible to use in adverse weather. purchase for 5-7 bucks.
-Spark Light aviation blah blah blah- very good little kit with a very long name but it comes with everything you need in a little snap top plastic box. It comes with it's own tinder tabs that light quickly if used properly, the spark lighter itself is very reliable, can be used with one hand, and is very durable. It also comes with some instructions. Purchase for anywhere from 8-12 bucks.
- Aurora Magnesium Fire Starter- SIMPLY AWESOME...I promise you that this will, for the average person, the last fire starter that you will ever need to buy! It's strong, beefy, quality made, compact, light, can be used in any weather, reliable, and relatively cheap. This will light a cotton ball, that's pulled out to be fluffy, with one strike of the flint rod. The flint rod also has the magnesium impregnated into the flint so you get that immensely hot shower of sparks that you need. The only bad thing is that you need to use two hands to get the sparks going and that I really can't find these things besides at Campingsurvival.com( Tom and his crew are a great bunch of people) ( oh and sorry about mentioning the other website I DO NOT work for them or anything I'm just a loyal customer and fan of their products and would like to share with my fellow MRE addicts the products that I have tested and believe in)
So there are 3 fire starters that I keep. I'll start another thread later with some other tips and tricks with fire starting
Thanks
Mike
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Mautz Fire Ribbon
Mautz Fire Ribbon is a very handy tool. It works well in rain. Here's my tube:
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