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Re: Combat Lifesaver Training
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:25 pm
by Bypah
rationtin440 wrote:Not sure what the laws are like for you housil, but here in America, the "good samaritan" rules that once applied are now a good way to get sued. In other words, EMTs can be held legally responsible if they share or teach skills to non-EMTs and those non-EMTs respond to an accident and screw up. In most cases, an "ambulance chaser" (American slang for scum-bag variety lawyers) will try to talk the victim into suing the people who stopped to help them if there is a screw up. Of course if someone does not know what they are doing and tries to move a victim with a spinal injury, that is one thing but no two accidents are alike. In the 1950s the American Red Cross was pushing a nation-wide effort to qualify as many citizens as possible in standard and advanced first aid in the event of nuclear attack. Now-a-days, many folks are afraid to respond to accidents for fear of being sued.
That's sadly true....
Now they have the CERT after 9/11 but they only teach you the basics for a start. The ytou have to have followup training to keep yourself up to date.
Re: Combat Lifesaver Training
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:29 pm
by Bypah
housil wrote:rationtin440 wrote:
Not over here. Phew...
They can bring a charge against you if you don´t help - doesn´t matter to your skills. Everybody is able to spend *any* first aid.
If you are a non-pro and do something "wrong", nobody can sue nor punish you. They want to prevent that people stopp spending first aid - if right or wrong
The most wrong thing they can do is - doing nothing.
We allways encurouge bystanders to help, also we praise peolpes if they spent first aid to victims (even it was somewhat less than perfect)
If you join traffic school to make your drivers license, you *must* go to a first aid training (8hrs) first. Without that, you don´t get any drivers license.
What we don´t do that is comon in the US: "Telephone-CPR"
Our dispatchers don´t advise you at the telephone how to spend first aid.
Individuality and the love of $$$$$ is alive an well here....
Money talks and BS walks!
"Sir,please lay on the road since you're bleeding and you might leave a stain on the sidewalk...which by the way we have to charge you for the cleanup.....thank you!!!"
Re: Combat Lifesaver Training
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:45 pm
by ak70g2
Bypah, under provisions of the 2nd Amendament of US Constitution, I think you can shoot them...
Re: Combat Lifesaver Training
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:48 pm
by ak70g2
housil wrote:
The most wrong thing they can do is - doing nothing.
Good point...
Re: Combat Lifesaver Training
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:16 pm
by Bypah
Re: Combat Lifesaver Training
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:37 am
by ak70g2
Start a new revolution? Driven by common sense? You're a teacher, teach the kids about this.
Re: Combat Lifesaver Training
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:25 am
by Bypah
Re: Combat Lifesaver Training
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:01 pm
by rationtin440
I gotta say housil, you have a good system in your country, here in America, lawyers are making big money getting folks to sue over anything and nothing. In my opinion, unless there was gross negligence on the part of the responder, he/she should be protected from lawsuits.
Re: Combat Lifesaver Training
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:17 pm
by ak70g2
norge wrote:
and try to gett one of these babyes
this one even had a minor surgical kit in it.
and yes i learned how to combat stich a smal wound before going to un peace keeping in lebanon
I think I must bribe someone in the US to look for one these for me:
http://www.usamma.army.mil/cls.cfm
http://www.usamma.army.mil/assets/docs/ ... c%2009.pdf