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Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:02 pm**

housil wrote:Just watch this:

If you order from outside EU, our customs don´t care what is leaving. In this way it´s US customs that will dump it.

So then I'm right it is impossible to import meats from other countries into the US. What puzzles me is how IRPs can get into the us without the IRP container being opened.

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:20 pm**

By officially importing it, paying for it, vetenarion or foodadministration certicate with it.
Why do you think those rations kost about $50? They probably cost around $2,50 in Russia

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:43 pm**

fdsman wrote:
So then I'm right it is impossible to import meats from other countries into the US. What puzzles me is how IRPs can get into the us without the IRP container being opened.

This was German customs at Frankfurt Int. Airport, doing EU regulations.

Cracker is right.
Of course you can official import meet, even into EU countries. If you spent lot´s of time and efforts (and costs) into paperworks for customs and veterinarian regulations...
I tried once and wasted a whole morning at the customs deparment. My two cases were sent back...

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:25 pm**

fdsman...after the big scare in EU and world wide with the Mad Cow disease the regulations became tougher.
I don't know if you remember that when Katrina hit back in 05', plenty of food and aid came from EU, UK an other countries. I remember that the US goverment didn't allowed shipments of EPa's, RCI'R's and British rations of being distributed to civilians .Plenty of them were either distroyed or sent back due to the mad cow disease scare. Some of those rats trickled down to E-bay and were sold ($$$$). Plenty of volunteers ate them and kept some.....nobody died of any disease!!!!!

Even a convoy of the mexican military, crossed the border( 1st time mexican army was in US soil in almost 100+ years!!) with a Field kitchen capable of feeding thousands and they didn't let them use it.They only distributed water.

they say it was due to goverment regulations,others "fear"... I simply say it was arrogance not to accept the help and aid given by the rest of the world.That's M.H.O....

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:09 am**

Bypah wrote:fdsman...after the big scare in EU and world wide with the Mad Cow disease the regulations became tougher.
I don't know if you remember that when Katrina hit back in 05', plenty of food and aid came from EU, UK an other countries. I remember that the US goverment didn't allowed shipments of EPa's, RCI'R's and British rations of being distributed to civilians .Plenty of them were either distroyed or sent back due to the mad cow disease scare. Some of those rats trickled down to E-bay and were sold ($$$$). Plenty of volunteers ate them and kept some.....nobody died of any disease!!!!!

Even a convoy of the mexican military, crossed the border( 1st time mexican army was in US soil in almost 100+ years!!) with a Field kitchen capable of feeding thousands and they didn't let them use it.They only distributed water. they say it was due to goverment regulations,others "fear"... I simply say it was arrogance not to accept the help and aid given by the rest of the world.That's M.H.O....

The horror...

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:14 am**

I just had this conversation with the sovietarmstuff staff on skype.

Skype Conversation wrote:[9/2/2009 5:41:00 PM] fdsman: hi, did you check with the seller?
[9/2/2009 10:33:30 PM] sovietarmystuff: Hello
[9/2/2009 10:33:36 PM] sovietarmystuff: we can get IRP-B
[9/2/2009 10:33:46 PM] fdsman: ah good
[9/2/2009 10:34:00 PM] fdsman: this is the exact military issue IRP-B correct?
[9/2/2009 10:34:10 PM] fdsman: yes
[9/2/2009 10:34:23 PM] fdsman: http://10.studio-web.net/~phototec/ros2.htm
[9/2/2009 10:34:26 PM] fdsman: like that?
[9/2/2009 10:34:46 PM] sovietarmystuff: yes. exactly
[9/2/2009 10:34:54 PM] fdsman: good good
[9/2/2009 10:35:04 PM] fdsman: will this be a special order? or are you going to list it on the site?
[9/2/2009 10:35:53 PM] sovietarmystuff: well, no I think we will not list it. just a sepcial order. because this price is quite high and not many buyers would like to buy it...
[9/2/2009 10:36:06 PM] sovietarmystuff: probably when we can get them cheaper, we will list them at the web site
[9/2/2009 10:36:20 PM] fdsman: oh
[9/2/2009 10:36:26 PM] fdsman: well it's good for me at least
[9/2/2009 10:38:04 PM] fdsman: I'll be making a video review of this ration for my Ration Review show, so hopefully that should tell people about it.
[9/2/2009 10:38:21 PM] sovietarmystuff: so, if you would like to proceed, please send payment to sales@westernbid.com but please include this comment with your payment: "LOMO COMPACT LC-A AUTOMAT 35mm Russian Camera LCA"
[9/2/2009 10:38:31 PM] sovietarmystuff: this is for our payment intermediary company.
[9/2/2009 10:38:37 PM] sovietarmystuff: they do not accept payments for food
[9/2/2009 10:39:00 PM] fdsman: how much?
[9/2/2009 10:39:05 PM] sovietarmystuff: how many rations?
[9/2/2009 10:39:14 PM] fdsman: well for now I think maybe 1
[9/2/2009 10:39:39 PM] sovietarmystuff: $50 + $25 postage. is it ok?
[9/2/2009 10:39:51 PM] fdsman: yes
[9/2/2009 10:40:06 PM] fdsman: I think I might need to wait until after the holidays though so I can get the funds
[9/2/2009 10:40:24 PM] sovietarmystuff: ok. just contact me when you are ready
[9/2/2009 10:43:29 PM] fdsman: alright

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:15 pm**

but please include this comment with your payment: "LOMO COMPACT LC-A AUTOMAT 35mm Russian Camera LCA"
[9/2/2009 10:38:31 PM] sovietarmystuff: this is for our payment intermediary company.

I love that, you're realy in the Soviet Union man!

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:07 pm**

Hmm.. My mother is really into "chernobyl kids" (volunteering and sending toys for an orphan and medical thing there, not by going to there, but by collecting toys and such)

She always gets ukrainian booze etc, but now my mother asked him if he could arrange a military ration from there.. because she nows i'm "into that stuff".. So I hope he manages to get it here in his bus, if so, I'll make an karma topic for the soviet minded people around here..

I don't really dare eating it honestly.. not that I don't trust the food.. but I want to know exactly what I'm eating.. not "oh this is beef" eating

(or.. oh!.. this is a guineapig.. oh no.. waite.. it's cat meat!) and as I see that people are willing to pay $75 to get a ration there.. ordering it from outside the US, with the possibility it doesn't arrive, I'd be a total freak to store it at my foodshelf for 5 years, and figure out I'm never ever going to eat it

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:00 pm**

Cracker wrote:Hmm.. My mother is really into "chernobyl kids" (volunteering and sending toys for an orphan and medical thing there, not by going to there, but by collecting toys and such)

She always gets ukrainian booze etc, but now my mother asked him if he could arrange a military ration from there.. because she nows i'm "into that stuff".. So I hope he manages to get it here in his bus, if so, I'll make an karma topic for the soviet minded people around here..

I don't really dare eating it honestly.. not that I don't trust the food.. but I want to know exactly what I'm eating.. not "oh this is beef" eating (or.. oh!.. this is a guineapig.. oh no.. waite.. it's cat meat!) and as I see that people are willing to pay $75 to get a ration there.. ordering it from outside the US, with the possibility it doesn't arrive, I'd be a total freak to store it at my foodshelf for 5 years, and figure out I'm never ever going to eat it

I'm not exactly going to fear the ration not arriving and even if so I'll contact them and tell them plus this is really only a one time thing for the ration review.

Posted: **Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:14 am**

I'm not judging you

only saying that I don't dear to touch an ration where someone would pay $75 for..
It looks like the camera thing is not only for the payment (like anyone would care?) it has probably got to do with laws, like german_EPA has.. He can't sell food, only collectibles. So an ration isn't food, only a collectible

Hope it arrives

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