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The "travellunch" is very good, I got a Dutch Artic ration from Norge, It featured 3 meals from them. Very tasty dehydrated/freeze dried! Better than us versions !

Stef wrote:I think the Bundeswehr guys don't go to the field with a microwave oven in their rucksack but rather with an Esbit cooker, so aluminium is much more convenient

Same thing in France for Lidl employees, even with our famous social laws (well, the good point is that they can do a strike every week if they want )

If france employees intend a strike, everybody participate. Even the truckdrivers...
Very impressing for me.
If german employees want to strike, everybody wants that someone else will go there to strike...




The civilian containers and the military containers just look equal, but the Bundeswehr EPa containers are more solide and have an extra plastic inner layer to increase shelf life. It is also almost impossible to open the top with just pulling that little nipple. A knife official is recommanded by instructions.
The civilian containers can easily be open by hand.
Since they changed the outer shape, from sqaure to rectangular, they reduced manufacturers to two (Buss and Herta)

See German manufacturer Buss here:
http://www.buss.de/46_freizeit.html

This is a 1997 square shape Cevapcici by Buss:


This is a 1998 rectangular shape Cevapcici by Buss


Same entree, diffrent manufacturer "Herta"


Side few:


The military don´t have a "best before" date, just a manufacturing year. They are good for 20 to 30 years without any losses of weight, taste or color.
Not the civilian ones in similar containers

Do BUSS have a website or email address?
I want to know if I can get them in Britain via LIDL or ALDI?
Thanks.

Enchilada wrote:Do BUSS have a website or email address?
I want to know if I can get them in Britain via LIDL or ALDI?
Thanks.

Yes, see that Buss-link I have add above

or use this:
http://www.buss.de/46_freizeit.html

Thank you housil I didnt see that.
I would like to be able to get some of them spreads here like the cheese with green pepper or the beef spreads.
The rye bread is easy to get here, delicious.

I thought the German government gave the EPa an estimated shelf life of about 2 years?

I don't doubt that they would last longer, just as canned goods could last many times past their "Best By" dates. Additionally, I think the food manufacturers place Best By dates on their goods based upon the fact that the general consumer will not have temperature controlled storage facilities in their pantries and it also protects the manufacturer from liability issues. I don't know about Germany, but in the US a member of the military cannot sue their branch of service for damages.

I also visited a friend in München and was wondering why he kept cases of Beck's outside of his home. It didn't dawn on me until the following day that the temperature outside was below that of what one might find in a refrigerator

housil wrote:The military don´t have a "best before" date, just a manufacturing year. They are good for 20 to 30 years without any losses of weight, taste or color.
Not the civilian ones in similar containers

The cheese is from www.gruenland.de

the hp is still under construction.

sometimes on ebay germany there are offers of cases with 50 or more.

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jubifahrer

I'm sorry if I didn't make myself clear. I was wondering why they used the aluminum trays for the ones sold in the stores. In the U.S. they use plastic because it is more marketable to the consumer as they need only take the tray out, lift the film a little, and throw it into the microwave. It would seem that the German consumer who purchases one of these ready meals would have to empty the contents on to a plate and then heat it up in the microwave and then consume it with some degree of civility

Similarly, it may be the MRE's notoriety itself that may be responsible for lower degree of acceptance in the U.S. for pouched retort foods. A thought occurred to me that the general consumer here may shy away from it because it looks like an MRE and may think that it is marketed for survivalists and paramilitary types. Additionally, they do require a different means of heating, either via boiling or by emptying the pouch into a microwave safe dish (people don't think of using the hot water tap from the office water cooler.)

Stef wrote:I think the Bundeswehr guys don't go to the field with a microwave oven in their rucksack but rather with an Esbit cooker, so aluminium is much more convenient

it is no problem to put the aluminum wrap in the microwave..open the entree, put a cover on it ( i use the microwave tupper top from my wife kitchen) an warm it up..

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jubifahrer

Thanks Jubifahrer
I love that cheese in the EPA.
It goes beautiful with the brot.