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Re: Interesting ration components

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:23 am
by donaldjcheek
biscuits brown wrote:In the excellent book Los Chicos De La Guerra 1982 by Daniel Kon, an Argentine Journalist, one of the participants described an Argentine ration box as having 2 tins of beef, some biscuits, mate or coffee, and a small bottle of Whiskey.
During the 1970s-80s, the Argentine army issued two types of rations: a lightweight "assault" ration and a larger 24-hour ration pack.

The assault ration is as described above: a tin of fatty corned beef and another can of beef stew, beans with meatballs, vegetable stew, etc. Plus some hard crackers, a bar of chocolate or pack of caramels, some instant coffee or yerba mate, an envelope of instant soup, a folder of matches, and one solidified alcohol tablet. And of course, a picture postcard of the Virgin Mary or one of the Saints.

The second, larger, ration pack also had two canned main meal items (usually noodles with meat, rice & meat, & various types of stews), which were larger and of better quality than the small tins packed in the assault ration. The ration box also included an envelope of instant soup, an envelope of instant breakfast cereal with fruit, fortified fruit juice powder, a bar of chocolate, a pack of caramels, an envelope of instant coffee with milk & sugar, water purification tablets, toilet paper, matches, a plastic tube containing 3-4 solidified alcohol tablets, a pack of 20 cigarettes, and a small 2-oz bottle of whiskey.

Because of shipping limitations, most rations provided to the enlisted troops were the "assault ration," while officers, professional NCOs, and specialist troops received the larger 24-hour ration pack.

The distinction between officers & enlisted was maintained even in garrison. Numerous accounts by both British & Argentine witnesses speak of the officers receiving full 3 & 5 course meals inside, while the enlisted soldiers lined up outside for thin, watery soup and bread.

Re: Interesting ration components

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:10 am
by housil
Bypah wrote:Olli....probably these components made by MRE Star could have easily been sold to the peruvians..... :wink:
If I remember right, they were made for them but they canceled the contract at least so you can get this double labeled boxes.

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Box and pouch

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Different to US dishes, but same saltless taste... :cry:

Re: Interesting ration components

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:51 am
by Treesuit
DonaldJcheek,

Hey any chance you could post the Peruvian ration here for us to see?

Re: Interesting ration components

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:33 am
by saladp
Treesuit wrote:But where's the rest of the ration? :?
Here we have some pictures of an Argentine military museum


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Re: Interesting ration components

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:01 am
by saladp
Bypah wrote:Information and pictures of combats rations of Latin American armies are very rare and elusive. :roll:

I got a pic of a display of modern combat rations of the Argentinian army.... :mrgreen:
Raciones de combate argentinas- Argentinian Army Rations.jpg
a little more light for our eyes .. :wink:

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If anyone knows how a flameless heater of initiation pyrotechnics (calentador sin llama de iniciacion pirotecnica)of the third picture ...?

I commented that in the 60s in the Spanish army used a can with quicklime and water to heat the cans of rations

Re: Interesting ration components

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:14 pm
by Treesuit
WOW! Thanks Saladp for the article. That is pretty informative.

Re: Interesting ration components

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:27 am
by Bypah
Saladp...Gracias!!!!!
Se que ustedes en la madre patria tienen mas acceso a ese tipo de información que acá. :mrgreen:

Some of those rations look a lot like EPa's..... :idea:

Re: Interesting ration components

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:52 pm
by saladp
for you is the best I have :wink:

Bypah, sorry to say but here in Spain information on rations is almost zero ... so thanks to "sant google" :mrgreen:
but information on South American rations is very little I could find. mreinfo.com is my best "sant rations"! :D

eat military rations in Spain is "crazy militaristic" or "crazy curious." until recently we had military service obligatory, "la mili", and the portions have a bad memory of that part of life that some consider misused, and everything military is generally frowned upon by the "progressives". :roll:

but ... when you teach a ration around the world wants! :mrgreen:

for a couple of years are much sought after by fans-mil-sim airsoft



allow you to include the original text in Spanish, because I think the google-translation was not very good this time, sorry :oops:






para ustedes es lo mejor que tengo

Bypah, siento decir pero aqui en españa la informacion sobre raciones es casi nula... asi que gracias a "sant google"

en españa comer raciones militares es de "locos militaristas" o " locos curiosos". hasta hace pocos años teniamos el servicio militar obligatorio "la mili", y las raciones tienen el mal recuerdo de esa parte de la vida que algunos consideran mal empleada , y todo lo militar esta en general mal visto por los "progresistas".

pero...cuando enseñas una racion todo el mundo la quiere tener!!

pero la informacion sobre raciones sudamericanas es muy muy poca la que he podido encontrar. mreinfo.com es mi mejor "sant rations"!

desde hace un par de años estan muy buscadas por los aficionados al airsoft- mil-sim

para ustedes es lo mejor que tengo

Bypah, siento decir pero aqui en españa la informacion sobre raciones es casi nula... asi que gracias a "sant google"

en españa comer raciones militares es de "locos militaristas" o " locos curiosos". hasta hace pocos años teniamos el servicio militar obligatorio "la mili", y las raciones tienen el mal recuerdo de esa parte de la vida que algunos consideran mal empleada , y todo lo militar esta en general mal visto por los "progresistas".

pero...cuando enseñas una racion todo el mundo la quiere tener!!

pero la informacion sobre raciones sudamericanas es muy muy poca la que he podido encontrar. mreinfo.com es mi mejor "sant rations"!

desde hace un par de años estan muy buscadas por los aficionados al airsoft- mil-sim

Re: Interesting ration components

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:33 pm
by Bypah
OK...no hay problema je je je je je!!1
Ya la mili no es obligartoria??? :shock:

Re: Interesting ration components

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:52 pm
by dirtbag
saladp,
is there a link to those ration photos, so I can run them through google translate?
Thanks!