Veterinary drugs for SHTF?

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Veterinary drugs for SHTF?

Post by fdsman » Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:07 am

http://www.truthistreason.net/guide-to- ... -post-shtf

Interesting article, It would make sense though, that veterinary drugs would be the same as human ones, considering animals often share very similar diseases and such with humans.
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Re: Veterinary drugs for SHTF?

Post by Ruleryak » Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:38 pm

I personally stock Amoxicillin and Cipro from a veterinarian supply company in my post-shtf med kit. I also stock hemostatic powder meant for horses as an alternative to QuickClot (although I do stock QuickClot as well - just not as much since it's so pricey)

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Re: Veterinary drugs for SHTF?

Post by Treesuit » Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:52 pm

RulerYak,

Yeah, just make sure you get the right QuickClot kind. The earlier ones used to produce intense heat when applied to the wound. Quickclot has produced better products since that do not produce heat.

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Post by housil » Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:21 am

Treesuit wrote: The earlier ones used to produce intense heat when applied to the wound. Quickclot has produced better products since that do not produce heat.
That´s why civillian EMS and hospitals never introduced Quickclot. It´s "OK" under fire and to safe somebody from bleeding to death - but as long it´s not the "ultima ratio" - DON`T USE IT!!
It´s a mess to get all the "material" out of the wound agan. You`ll need a surgeon to do this and the heat of the first one can cause you burnigs that worsen the wound. Ouickclot (and all others) are just for uncontroalable bleedings and being a pro Paramedic now for 16 years, I NEVER saw an injury where I had need it and we do up to 10 runs a 12 hrs shift.
Increase your personal first aid skill will help you mutch better than all "technical nick-nack" :wink:

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Re: Veterinary drugs for SHTF?

Post by fdsman » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:46 pm

housil wrote:
Treesuit wrote: The earlier ones used to produce intense heat when applied to the wound. Quickclot has produced better products since that do not produce heat.
That´s why civillian EMS and hospitals never introduced Quickclot. It´s "OK" under fire and to safe somebody from bleeding to death - but as long it´s not the "ultima ratio" - DON`T USE IT‼
It´s a mess to get all the "material" out of the wound agan. You`ll need a surgeon to do this and the heat of the first one can cause you burnigs that worsen the wound. Ouickclot (and all others) are just for uncontroalable bleedings and being a pro Paramedic now for 16 years, I NEVER saw an injury where I had need it and we do up to 10 runs a 12 hrs shift.
Increase your personal first aid skill will help you mutch better than all "technical nick-nack" :wink:
The quickclot/celox you buy today doesn't come in loose granules anymore, it's sealed in a gauze pouch.

They also made it sealed in between a gauze roll

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Post by housil » Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:27 am

Thx for that update!

We, pro EMS even in Air Ambulance, don´t use it (yet?). See, I´m very used in emergency treatmeant of severe injuries and never had one I couldn´t control without e.g. quickclot.

What I bought for my own medical equipment is a torniquet (to use at others) for in case of.

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Post by ak70g2 » Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:04 am

About turniquets, if I may make an reccomadation, TurtleNomad sent me one of these, I've used twice by now, very good and very effective:

http://www.rescue-essentials.com/SWAT_T ... 0-0110.htm
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