CFP-90 pack?

[Treesuit]

FDSman,

From what I remember from that thread, the CFP-90 was based off of the Vector packs. I remember reading something about Vector packs being sold only to military, and aren't available on the civilian market. Not sure which military this would be, but I don't think it's US.

Yep, your right. There wwere some experimnetal packs made during the trial era 1986-1988 that similar to CFP-90 and then there were the prototype CFP-90 rucks. I haven't been able to sort through the whole CFP-90 story but from what I gather there were some LOW Alpine VECTOR packs that were private purchases, then the prototypes I listed earlier, then the solid green CFP-90's, and somewhere inbetween LOW ALPINE made their own CFP-90 version in a woodland camo or ERDL camo version. The 1st run CFP-90's, 1990-91, in woodland camo were the first ones to hit the supply system. So, as you can see some were privately bought by owners, I'm sure it was mostly US service members.

If there is anybody else that could clarify this, or add it to it that would be helpful.

[fdsman]

I just received the first of the CFP-90's in the mail, and it's in great shape.

It's obviously been used and put through it's paces ,but it's in great shape. There's no ripped seams or anything. The ducks foot is in perfect shape, although I'm still probably going to replace it.

The main pack seems to be void of any labels, however the patrol pack was made by SDS. Both are marked with US, not sure though if I got stuck with a bum pack made by that South Dakota contractor. Not sure on the label for the main ruck just yet as I only spent about 5 minutes looking the thing over when I got it.

When I have some time to myself tomorrow, I'm going to inspect this thing and report back with as detailed of a report as I can come up with.

I'll have an in depth video about it sometime either tomorrow or Saturday on YouTube.

[fdsman]

Interesting, I found this hand written label underneath the ducks foot that says "Ealnor Grey Contracting".






I looked that up and found nothing relating to any military contractor.

[fdsman]

I really wish the main ruck had a tag on it so I could easily ID who made it.

I know a few things though. All the buckles on it are Fastex, which means it's not a Rothco/Korean knock off.

The seams are sewn together with some kind of green nylon binding, so I think this must be one of the later contract packs.

The sleeping bag compartment bottom is lined with woodland pattern on the inside, which differs from some of the earlier ones that had a tan/OD green interior.

Unlike the picture I posted a page or so ago about the broken ducks foot, the polymer material mine is made out of seems to be a bit more flexible and pliable then the one pictured. The shoulder strap webbing is sandwiched between the top layer and a softer bendable material.

I registered over at the US Militaria forums, and if I get approved, I'll have to ask a few other questions on some other features of this pack. For one I noticed some CFP-90's have an OD green mesh back cushion, while others like mine have a black one. These sorts of details should help me figure out which is which.

[Treesuit]

I really wish the main ruck had a tag on it so I could easily ID who made it

Seriously....there's no manufacturing tag anywhere? The only two places I can think of where it might be are inside the main bag just under the mouth of the opening or on the underside of the main flap. I doubt any contractor or manufacturer would just put a scribbled white paper tag in there and call it good. Did your pack come with a patrol pack?

For one I noticed some CFP-90's have an OD green mesh back cushion, while others like mine have a black one

That theory could be quite valid. Often times black will come first then a lighter color like green. Another well known fact is that different manufacturers will use whatever color they have in stock or on hand. Without a tag I can't really give a good answer.

[fdsman]

I really wish the main ruck had a tag on it so I could easily ID who made it

Seriously....there's no manufacturing tag anywhere? The only two places I can think of where it might be are inside the main bag just under the mouth of the opening or on the underside of the main flap. I doubt any contractor or manufacturer would just put a scribbled white paper tag in there and call it good. Did your pack come with a patrol pack?

For one I noticed some CFP-90's have an OD green mesh back cushion, while others like mine have a black one

That theory could be quite valid. Often times black will come first then a lighter color like green. Another well known fact is that different manufacturers will use whatever color they have in stock or on hand. Without a tag I can't really give a good answer.

The patrol pack is made by SDS, and it denotes a division of Specialty plastic products. Unlike some of the MOLLE stuff I've had which just says Specialty Defense Systems Inc.

From what I've seen in pictures, I think the label was cut off by a previous owner. I'll keep looking though since I'm still inspecting it and finding new details about it.

I'm not sure however that these are a matched pair. Considering things get separated when shipped to surplus stores.

[fdsman]

Just wanted to mention that all the seems are sewed together with OD Green grosgrain type ribbon. I believe this is also a sign of a better made pack.

[Treesuit]

all the seems are sewed together with OD Green grosgrain type ribbon

What exactly is that? Other than its a ribbon type of material.

[fdsman]

all the seems are sewed together with OD Green grosgrain type ribbon

What exactly is that? Other than its a ribbon type of material.

I've seen it used a lot to protect what would otherwise be a bare edge of nylon material, or to reinforce a seem. I've heard the CFP-90's that have been known to bust don't have this reinforcement.

[Treesuit]

Might have been an aftermarket repair or something that might have been sent back to get repaired and whomever that was might have used an outside contractor to do the work. I've seen that done before.

You mentioned that you tried searching for the conteractor name and nothing came up? That is strange, normally if any contractor would have done work they would still be around or bought out by another firm. If that happened it would be public knowledge, though a little hard to find.

I'm going to go with the theory of aftermarket repair. Just from what you said the nylon stiching and seam construction are too good to be done by a government contractor.