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Re: What would you put in your Bug out Bag?

Post by Treesuit » Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:32 pm

What is the Canadian KSK one like. I never heard of that. I also have a Norwegian Extreme Cold Weather from a trade with NORGE, an Alpine North Face, and two REI lighter ones (similar to patrol bags), I also have a SUNGPACK patrol one.


Of all the ones you own which is you favorite?

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Re: What would you put in your Bug out Bag?

Post by housil » Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:00 pm

Treesuit wrote:What is the Canadian KSK one like.
KSK is for "Kommando Spezialkräfte", that´s like the SEALs of the German Army


As the Bundeswehr had only the "GP" sleeping bag that wasn´t situable for cold area missions, they had to get better ones from other suppliers. One sleeping bag they issued was from the Canadians:

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This are two down filled sleeping bags sticked together and a cotton liner inside like you know from the US MSS.
It´s hugh, bulky and heavy (11lbs!!) .
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Nothing you can carry in your rucksack with you. The next "unusual" thing is, that bag ends at your shoulders, you head sticks on top out of that bag. There comes a hood with rubber straps:
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Re: What would you put in your Bug out Bag?

Post by housil » Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:16 pm

Treesuit wrote: Of all the ones you own which is you favorite?
The US Intermedia was my favourit for over 10 years and after my one was worn out, I bought another new one straight from the US for just $50 :mrgreen:
I used it for our hikes (2nd guy is me)
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even in winter
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(that´s really me, 20 years ago at -10C° (14F))

but now I preferred the Bundeswehr "GPII" due to it´s less weight and you can compress it despite he is not this comfy as the US ones. I never had to use my US Extreme Cold I also got brand new straight from the US for just a couple of bucks. :D

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Re: What would you put in your Bug out Bag?

Post by Treesuit » Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:22 pm

Housil,

In those photos from long ago it looks like you were using a ALICE pack, with some sort of attachment on the bottom if I'm correct. What was your impression of using the US ALICE rucksack Vs. what you may have had in the Army?

Plus, I like the KSK sleeping bag, it looks very thick and warm but you mentioned the weight was a problem...what a shame, :cry: How much would one sell for on the market these days? I think with a bag like that you could use it for car camping or in place camping with a tent, much like you do at that vehicle show every year.

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Re: What would you put in your Bug out Bag?

Post by housil » Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:32 pm

Treesuit wrote:Housil,

In those photos from long ago it looks like you were using a ALICE pack, with some sort of attachment on the bottom if I'm correct. What was your impression of using the US ALICE rucksack Vs. what you may have had in the Army?
Yes, Hawkeye :mrgreen:
These was back in these days when we were doing hikes with US equipment only.
I´d like the ALICE because it was more "comfortable" to carry due to the wider shoulder strapes with quick release AND that wider hip belt.
On the bottom the sleeping bag attached via these sleeping bag carring "harness"
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Treesuit wrote: Plus, I like the KSK sleeping bag, it looks very thick and warm but you mentioned the weight was a problem...what a shame, :cry: How much would one sell for on the market these days? I think with a bag like that you could use it for car camping or in place camping with a tent, much like you do at that vehicle show every year.
At ebay.de and some shop´s they are available for more than €100. Do you want one?

I never used it over here as we have a moist winter weather, that down bag is made for very try, north American climate.

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Re: What would you put in your Bug out Bag?

Post by housil » Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:19 am

Treesuit wrote:I also have a SUNGPACK patrol one.
See, this is my Snugpak:

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It´s a Sleeper Lite. As mentoined before, I never used it outdoors yet, just at work on nightshift but I´d like to give it a try as he feels very comfy

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Re: What would you put in your Bug out Bag?

Post by Treesuit » Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:57 am

Housil,

That SUNGPAK bag is similar to mine, except mine has a higher temperature rating. It's very narrow and confining if you try to zip it up.


I wish I could up that KSK sleeping bag, right now its very affordable but the shipping would be too much because of the weight. :x Also it would not be practical for a Bug Out Bag unless you keep it in the car/truck.

If you don't mind asking, Housil, do you normally carry a stove with you. If so what might it be?

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Re: What would you put in your Bug out Bag?

Post by fdsman » Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:40 am

Here's a tip for y'all.

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Re: What would you put in your Bug out Bag?

Post by housil » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:19 am

Treesuit wrote: I wish I could up that KSK sleeping bag, right now its very affordable but the shipping would be too much because of the weight. :x Also it would not be practical for a Bug Out Bag unless you keep it in the car/truck.
Shipping would be "just" ~€50 via DHL (up to 20lbs) but yes, nothing you would like to carry...
Treesuit wrote: If you don't mind asking, Housil, do you normally carry a stove with you. If so what might it be?
Don´t mind, that´s what a forum is for :D

What kind of stove?
A tent stove?
With my tent comes usually a tent stove like this:
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(picture taken from raeer.de)
Very nice, very warm and *very* heavy... Also you need a fuel supply via jerry can and a stand etc. To me, too inconvenient for a "just for fun" weekend.

I would like to have such a smaller one you can fire with wood:
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but untill now, I could stand a weekend at -10°C (14F) without a stove (yet)... :mrgreen:

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Re: What would you put in your Bug out Bag?

Post by Treesuit » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:32 am

Housil,

Wow, those are serious looking stoves much similar to moutain stoves that you carry to semi permanent campsites here in the American West. Those do look like they could keep you warm in the event of an blackout or power outage.

What I really meant is when you go for a hike or camping what kind of portable stove do you use. For example, I have a jetboil compact stove but also a MSR whisperlight stove.

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