Mealtime aboard the I.S.S.

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Mealtime aboard the I.S.S.

Post by biscuits brown » Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:40 pm

800px-Meal_STS127.jpg
Curteousy of NASA
An interesting view of 9 of the 13 members of the International Space Station repair team pictured summer 2009.
Note the wide array of foods and different methods of packaging.
As a big fan of the tin its great to see tins in space. 8)

Note the odd pulley - like device. A power operated fork?? Most items are held onto the table by velcro it would seem.
Anyone spot or identify anything interesting?
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Re: Mealtime aboard the I.S.S.

Post by donaldjcheek » Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:10 pm

The US has gone almost completely to retort pouches for space foods. The Russians still prefer cans. As an aside, when French astronauts began making space voyages, most ate US or Russian rations. However, a French chef developed a line of space-compatible foods in Russian-type aluminum cans so the French astronauts could have a taste of home.
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origins of retort packs?

Post by biscuits brown » Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:39 pm

Im beginning to suspect that retort packaging was started on as a direct result of the decision to begin planning for Project Horizon. Briefly a 1958 armed forces plan to put a small military installation with 12 men on the moon. The wording in the original paper calls for new materials and methods of manufacture to be investigated in clothing, packaging, etc.
Remember this predates Gemini or Mercury planning by 2 or 3 years. Horizon was the first attempt to regain technical dominance from the USSR after Sputnik.

Wiki Project Horizon. Its fascinating.

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Re: Mealtime aboard the I.S.S.

Post by Treesuit » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:24 pm

In the space station photo "yes" sometimes velcro is used to keep the pouches, tins, etc from floating away and there is another trick of using a droplet(s) of water on the bottom of cans and using something like adhesion to keep the can from flaoting away. I can't remember the scientific name but I did see a article on that same topic on the History Channel.

Also retort pouches I believe were a result of the space program but it wasn't fully developed until the moon missions. I do remember seeing some photos of small liquid and compressed food bars for the Gemini and Mercury Programs. Could be that the HORIZON pilot program got it kicked off as far as feeding people in the technical aspects and funding?

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Re: Mealtime aboard the I.S.S.

Post by biscuits brown » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:30 pm

I think you are right Treesuit. This probably gave NATICK the long term goal. After all the argument I just saw on the web while checking this, says retorts were developed because of weight (fine, applies to space too) and risk of injury of troops falling on cans, which sounds a bit lame for a multi million dollar research effort. :wink:
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Re: Mealtime aboard the I.S.S.

Post by biscuits brown » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:48 pm

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Mercury mission ration pack. Seems to consist of freeze dried and dehydrated foods.
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Re: Mealtime aboard the I.S.S.

Post by Bypah » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:25 pm

FoodTrayLG.jpg
This is what is used in the ISS
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This was used in the early days of the shuttle missions.
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Russian tube space food-juices and jellies.jpg
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Gemini and Apollo missions food.Interesting gadget to pump hot water to rehydrate the food components.
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Project Mercury...food pills and tubes.
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Re: Mealtime aboard the I.S.S.

Post by PerseP » Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:52 pm

biscuits brown wrote:
800px-Meal_STS127.jpg
An interesting view of 9 of the 13 members of the International Space Station repair team pictured summer 2009.
Note the wide array of foods and different methods of packaging.
As a big fan of the tin its great to see tins in space. 8)

Note the odd pulley - like device. A power operated fork?? Most items are held onto the table by velcro it would seem.
Anyone spot or identify anything interesting?
Hi,
can you post the original link to the picture. I'm interested in the swiss army knife that appears in the center on the picture.

Thanks

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Re: Mealtime aboard the I.S.S.

Post by PerseP » Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:13 pm

PerseP wrote: Hi,
can you post the original link to the picture. I'm interested in the swiss army knife that appears in the center on the picture.

Thanks
Found it :D

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Re: Mealtime aboard the I.S.S.

Post by Bypah » Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:33 pm

It looks like could be one of these two.... :wink:
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The main blade is serrated not straight.
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swiss army knife 2.jpg
this one the "Rucksack" has a serrated blade separated from the main blade.
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new swiss army knife.jpg
Or you can get the new military version for the Swiss Army....
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Bundeswehr Victorinox pocketknife.jpg
..or the Bundeswehr version also made by Victorinox.
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:mrgreen:
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