Finnish Combat ration

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Finnish Combat ration

Post by Johnny A. » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:02 pm

So they always told me that you cannot buy the official Finnish Defence Forces combat ration pack. But I found this store here in FInland and they sell the real deal (I have served in the finnish army so...). And they sell them to ordinary people too. Also international.

In finnish the official goverment name for this is "Taistelumuonapakkaus".

Here is the store link:

http://www.finnrappel.fi/militaryrations.htm



PUOLUSTUSVOIMIEN 24h TAISTELUMUONAPAKKAUS / Finnish Military 24h Rations

-Helposti avattavat ja vesitiiviit paketit
-9 erilaista ruokalajia, 3 kasvis-/laktoositon-/gluteenitonta ruokavaliota
-Paketin paino n. 900g
-Energiasisältö yli 3500 kcal
-Käyttöympäristö pohjoismaat, aavikko ja tropiikki
-Säilyvyys min. 24 kuukautta

Kuuma aamupala
Lounaskeitto
Pääruoka
Jälkiruoka
Välipala
Juomapaketti




Here is my english translation of the text:

Defence Forces 24h combat ration pack

-Easily opened and waterproof.
-9 different courses, 3 vegetable and lactose free, gluten free courses.
-weight 900 grams.
-3500 calories
-enviroments of usage: nordic countries, desert and tropic.
-Stays eatable - minimun 24 months.

Hot breakfast
Lunch soup
Main course
Dessert
Snack
Beveragepack



I was in the service back in 95-96. Our packs would keep like 30 years. The finnish military has a long tradition on rations, they had then in the the 1930's at least. These are newer ones from what we had. And i believe they come straight from the manufacturer. They do look a bit more "hi-tec", than the ones from they 90's. I have heard that it is the same norwegian manufacturer that supllies all nordic countries (FIN, SWE, NOR). I need to look into that a bit. I liked them back when I was in the army. But in any case, here they are, if anyone is interested. God bless.

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Re: Finnish Combat ration

Post by norge » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:41 pm

hello jhonny A

most of the that ration is british stuff,the pack and go is made in ireland :D


yes its rigth that the fin norw swed danish are using the new drytech
rations from norway.
talked to the fin army people this winther when they was
here for the exersice,and they loved the new norway rations
since they had more food and candy,drinks and so on.

cheers from norge in norway

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Re: Finnish Combat ration

Post by Johnny A. » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:47 pm

Here are the prices:

30 Euro for one 24h pack

A box of 24 packs 720 Euro.

They do send international, also to the U.S., but at buyers risk.
The price is pretty steep, but these do come straight from the manufacturer. They are not army surplus.





It's been a while when i was in the army, but they outsourced all their military rations? I mean, how smart is that? When a war comes... But I liked the finnish made ones fine. If these are better then good. Do they sell these in the civillian market in some other place too? Cheaper?

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Re: Finnish Combat ration

Post by norge » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:52 pm

complete norwegian 24 hours rations are hard to gett,even in norway.
one ration cost about 47$ if im not to wrong
and you can only buy the main meals like dinners lunch
at sports stores.
al the other army 24 hours are for the army.
norge :D

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Re: Finnish Combat ration

Post by housil » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:13 pm

Johnny A. wrote:Here are the prices:

30 Euro for one 24h pack

A box of 24 packs 720 Euro.
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€720 Seven-hundret-twenty?!?!
For that you will get ~ 12 cases MRE´s over here. That´s are food for 48 days three meals a day. That´s the two times more than that!!

Johnny A. wrote: It's been a while when i was in the army, but they outsourced all their military rations? I mean, how smart is that? When a war comes...
As the cold war is over, the military changed their philosophies. German Bundeswehr stopped to store any rations in 1999 but came back in storing 500.000 when they joined missions at former Yugoslavia (KFOR) and Afghanistan (ISAF)
Every war need´s some preparations, even from the attacker. They have to summon their troops and had some political skirmish before. No war comes "over night" (excapt Germanys "Blitzkrieg")

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Re: Finnish Combat ration

Post by norge » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:30 pm

yep Housil

norway aint cheap....1 litre of milk is 12 norwegian kroner=2$
0,4 litre beer(one glas) is 60 to 70 nkr=11$
dont think il write more,it makes no one want to vivst norway :lol: :mrgreen: .


cheers norge :D

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Re: Finnish Combat ration

Post by Cracker » Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:37 am

Don't forget these are arctic rations.. the Dutch ROEK also costs about €30 at eBay
The food is more expensive, it's quite rare, and the army simply buys a few more then a army store.. :wink:
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Re: Finnish Combat ration

Post by donaldjcheek » Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:03 pm

Not a whole lot of information out there on Finnish ration packs. They used to be called "Sissipakkaus" (Ranger pack or Guerilla pack) and had a lot of canned & dried foods. Within the past few years it seems the Finns "outsourced" certain ration components and introduced something that more closely resembled NATO rations.

Finnish Troop Ration (Taistelumuonapakkaus)

Packed in small cardboard box measuring 250 x 500 x 100 mm, weighs between 950 g & 1.6 kg and somewhat resembles the French RCIR. Contents as laid down in the specifications are:

Beverages: Tea (2 g), Coffee (2 g), Cocoa (50 g), 2 envelopes Instant orange drink powder (17.5 g ea)
Breakfast: Instant oats w/dried fruit (70 g) or plain Instant oats (70 g)
Lunch: Crisp Bread (85 g), Ham Spread (125 g) or Salmon Spread (125 g)
Main Meals (2 per box)*: Chicken curry w/rice (400 g), Pasta w/asparagus in cheese (150 g), Beef & Mushrooms w/rice (162 g), Noodles in Carbonara sauce (150 g), Curry Beef w/rice (154 g), Beef Stew (250 g)
Other: Chewing Gum (6.5 g), Chocolate Bar (50 g), Snack Bar (Oat & Wild Berry - 30 g or Oat & Honey -30 g), Sugar (5 g), Salt (0.5 g), & Pepper (0.2 g)
Accessories: Antiseptic towelette, Matches, Water purification tablets (sufficient for 2.4 liter), 10 sheets Multipurpose paper

*These are the ones I've seen; I'm sure there are others. Older packs contained round pop-top cans, newer ones a French-style "plat de cuisine" or MRE-type retort pouch
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Re: Finnish Combat ration

Post by mursu » Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:05 am

I was in Kosovo 2007-2008 and we had those French style food cans in some of our finnish rations (our field rations was packed by Danish camp supply) and they were pretty awful. :) Some bags had those French food cans and some had Drytech's main meal.

Nowdays finnish army is using (at least in peacekeeping operations) Drytech's Real field meal combat rations.

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Re: Finnish Combat ration

Post by traani » Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:36 am

Some finnish stuff,made by dry-tech.
one complete 24hr kit and one separate leftover.

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