Barrack Osama set to doom the US?

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Barrack Osama set to doom the US?

Post by fdsman » Sat Oct 25, 2008 1:48 pm

I've been thinking lately how violently the media has been reporting on Obama, and how it seems he has already won the race. I'm thinking the outcome of Obama for the next four years is going to turn the United States into a Socialist nation, instead of a land of freedom and liberty. I've been wondering what the "test" will be on the new administration if he is elected, whether it would be an attack on our nation, or something worse.

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Re: Barrack Osama set to doom the US?

Post by bl00k » Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:27 am

fdsman wrote:I've been thinking lately how violently the media has been reporting on Obama, and how it seems he has already won the race. I'm thinking the outcome of Obama for the next four years is going to turn the United States into a Socialist nation, instead of a land of freedom and liberty. I've been wondering what the "test" will be on the new administration if he is elected, whether it would be an attack on our nation, or something worse.

Post your thoughts.
My views are slightly different. For one i don't think the US will be more socialist (apart from what it already is given the bailout etc.). Obama is taxing those who earn most more and those who earn least less. This way, the ones who will earn most will still be richest, although the gap between the richest and the poor will be smaller. It will still be a huge gap, but it will be smaller. The ones who earn the least will be able to survive the month more easily. Next to that Americans will have more affordable health care where the richest will pay for the health care of the poorest.

I dont know what you mean about 'freedom and liberty'. It has been the Bush administration which has systematically decreased the freedom of Americans through all sorts of legislature designed to fight 'terrorism'.

If you're part of the extremely rich, and you'd like to keep your money, you should vote for McCain. If you're not rich and like to keep your money, you should vote for Obama. I know how McCain has time after time claimed that Obama will redistribute wealth at a cost for the middle class, but that is plain BS. McCain wants reduce taxes for those who need it the least, the most. Why does the billionaire need to pay less taxes, and why does the dirt poor fastfood employee need to pay more? How will having an extra 1 million a year improve the life of a millionaire/billionaire? How will having an extra $500 a month improve the life of a regular poor person? McCain won't help the middle class neither by taxing everyone less and letting the deficit rise to astronomical heights, even further than it is now.

It's fine if you don't like government interferring, neither do i. You just have to see it in perspective. Obama is not socialist or communist. That's ridiculous. He may be slightly more socialist than McCain, but compared to Europe he's a rightwinger.

I've heard everything Obama has been called, from muslim to negro to terrorist. That's all fine, besides that it makes people who say it look like the dumbest people on earth.

But i'm not necessarily *for* Obama, but more against McCain & Palin. First of all because i dont agree with their opinions, second because of their campaigning style and third because of their total incompetence, especially Palin who should be making some man's dinner and clean her kids clothes instead of working at the executive branch of government.

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Post by aquarius » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:42 pm

Please US readers do NOT confuse 'socialisme' with 'social' !
Because Obama is more social than others, he for sure is no socialist.

On the other hand, maybe one could argue that many of the anti-socialist are for sure anti-social... :twisted:

Could it be worse with Obama than it is now?
Oh yes, but that's because of the mess Bush et. al. left for Obama (and of course maybe McCain; it hasn't been decided yet).
"if you don't read the newspaper, you are uniformed. If you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed". (Mark Twain)

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Post by aquarius » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:44 pm

David Corn (motherjoners.com):
"Who's to blame for the biggest financial catastrophe of our time? There are plenty of culprits, but one candidate for lead perp is former Sen. Phil Gramm. Eight years ago, as part of a decades-long anti-regulatory crusade, Gramm pulled a sly legislative maneuver that greased the way to the multibillion-dollar subprime meltdown. Yet has Gramm been banished from the corridors of power? Reviled as the villain who bankrupted Middle America? Hardly. Now a well-paid executive at a Swiss bank, Gramm cochairs Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign and advises the Republican candidate on economic matters. He's been mentioned as a possible Treasury secretary should McCain win. That's right: A guy who helped screw up the global financial system could end up in charge of US economic policy. Talk about a market failure."


Scaring...
"if you don't read the newspaper, you are uniformed. If you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed". (Mark Twain)

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