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AR 15 build
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:20 am
by ancienttyrael
Well I'm putting the ration collection on hold for a while now and switching over to guns.
I will be building my first AR, kit should be here on Tuesday. Guy was selling a spikes stripped lower for 50 bucks and I couldn't turn that done. Nothing special really with the kit, all mil-spec for shooting NATO. I'll get some pics up once I'm finished.
Re: AR 15 build
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:35 pm
by BTemple
AR's are considered a Restricted firearm here in Canada and thus you are only allowed to shoot it at a registered gun-range and you must be a member of a shooting club to even own a Restricted firearm. I'd certainly own an AR if you were allowed to use it for hunting, like Coyote, which are almost a large as wolves here in Newfoundland, but since you can't use it hunting it's too much money just to be plinking at the range. I have a Heckler & Koch SL-8-4 which is considered Non-Restricted and thus OK to use for hunting.... which makes no sense.
Re: AR 15 build
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:59 pm
by FREMONT
BTemple wrote:AR's are considered a Restricted firearm here in Canada and thus you are only allowed to shoot it at a registered gun-range and you must be a member of a shooting club to even own a Restricted firearm. I'd certainly own an AR if you were allowed to use it for hunting, like Coyote, which are almost a large as wolves here in Newfoundland, but since you can't use it hunting it's too much money just to be plinking at the range. I have a Heckler & Koch SL-8-4 which is considered Non-Restricted and thus OK to use for hunting.... which makes no sense.
Don't fret! Although AR-15's and AK47 pattern firearms are restricted, you can buy a tavor, a VZ-58, SKS's and SVT's. And even Chicom guns such as Type 81's which are going to be imported soon. Fun fact, the H&K is a "import friendly" G36.
http://www.huntinggearguy.com/rifle-rev ... in-canada/
If I am not mistaken, didn't some politicians go though a catalog and pointed out which guns should be banned? Granted it sounds silly, but some US states banned firearms just based on their looks and names.
Re: AR 15 build
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 6:06 pm
by BTemple
Oh yes I know you can own those. I have a SKS and an original silver-bolt SVT-40. Also have an M-1 Garand, an M1941 Johnson, a Swedish Ljungman, a WW2 K98 Mauser, a WW1 Mauser 98a, a WW1 Mosin Model 1891, a WW2 No. 4, Mk. 1 Lee-Enfield, and a 1977 Commemorative Winchester 94 Cheyenne Carbine. Along with a number of pistols.
Re: AR 15 build
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 8:17 pm
by ancienttyrael
FREMONT wrote:BTemple wrote:AR's are considered a Restricted firearm here in Canada and thus you are only allowed to shoot it at a registered gun-range and you must be a member of a shooting club to even own a Restricted firearm. I'd certainly own an AR if you were allowed to use it for hunting, like Coyote, which are almost a large as wolves here in Newfoundland, but since you can't use it hunting it's too much money just to be plinking at the range. I have a Heckler & Koch SL-8-4 which is considered Non-Restricted and thus OK to use for hunting.... which makes no sense.
Don't fret! Although AR-15's and AK47 pattern firearms are restricted, you can buy a tavor, a VZ-58, SKS's and SVT's. And even Chicom guns such as Type 81's which are going to be imported soon. Fun fact, the H&K is a "import friendly" G36.
http://www.huntinggearguy.com/rifle-rev ... in-canada/
If I am not mistaken, didn't some politicians go though a catalog and pointed out which guns should be banned? Granted it sounds silly, but some US states banned firearms just based on their looks and names.
Yea all the states with their special bans *cough*cali*cough* and then the federal government which bans imports from China and Russia. Hell the piles of surplus M1 Garands we got over in Korea are banned imports still.
Re: AR 15 build
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 8:54 pm
by shawker71
BTemple wrote:Oh yes I know you can own those. I have a SKS.
Sad they solder that pin in your magazine though. You do have the opportunity to have weapons that are scarce/non-existent in the US but we (in Alabama) can have a Tapco 20 in our Norincos.
Mentioning all those Garands in Korea is just a sad thought every time I think about it.
Re: AR 15 build
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:14 pm
by BTemple
Yes it's sad that some firearms here have to be damaged in such a way to make them legal, certainly cuts their value down.
My 1941 Johnson is the rarest and most expensive piece I own, and even that had to be limited from 10 rounds capacity down to 5.
I hate the 104mm barrel law here for pistols as well, makes most Lugers illegal, since they have 100mm barrels. Not really ready to put down $4000 or $5000 for one of the Artillery models. My Makarov is a Baikal commercial model with an extra 1/4 inch of barrel sticking out in order to make it legal in Canada
Re: AR 15 build
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:53 pm
by FREMONT
BTemple wrote:Yes it's sad that some firearms here have to be damaged in such a way to make them legal, certainly cuts their value down.
My 1941 Johnson is the rarest and most expensive piece I own, and even that had to be limited from 10 rounds capacity down to 5.
I hate the 104mm barrel law here for pistols as well, makes most Lugers illegal, since they have 100mm barrels. Not really ready to put down $4000 or $5000 for one of the Artillery models. My Makarov is a Baikal commercial model with an extra 1/4 inch of barrel sticking out in order to make it legal in Canada
IS 5 the legal limit? It's a shame that you have to limit your
75 year old rifle to
modernfirearm laws. Same with all of you other guns as well. DO you have a limit for your bolt actions as well? I know Lee Enfields can hold ten rounds? (Never held one in my hands). Also, I recommend to get an M1 carbine, they're extremely light.
Re: AR 15 build
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:07 pm
by shawker71
It is their limit on SKS, of that I am sure. They weld a metal pin into the bottom of the magazine to limit it.
Re: AR 15 build
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:10 pm
by BTemple
FREMONT wrote:BTemple wrote:Yes it's sad that some firearms here have to be damaged in such a way to make them legal, certainly cuts their value down.
My 1941 Johnson is the rarest and most expensive piece I own, and even that had to be limited from 10 rounds capacity down to 5.
I hate the 104mm barrel law here for pistols as well, makes most Lugers illegal, since they have 100mm barrels. Not really ready to put down $4000 or $5000 for one of the Artillery models. My Makarov is a Baikal commercial model with an extra 1/4 inch of barrel sticking out in order to make it legal in Canada
IS 5 the legal limit? It's a shame that you have to limit your
75 year old rifle to
modernfirearm laws. Same with all of you other guns as well. DO you have a limit for your bolt actions as well? I know Lee Enfields can hold ten rounds? (Never held one in my hands). Also, I recommend to get an M1 carbine, they're extremely light.
Yes for all semi-auto centerfire rifles the legal limit is only 5 rounds. So all magazines have to be either cut down or have a "pin" or rivet drilled and placed into the magazine to stop the follower from being able to drop any further than 5 rounds.
The Lee-Enfield is one of only a few rifles in Canada allowed to hold more than 5 rounds. The Garand is allowed to stay at its 8 round capacity, which is nice because that's what I use to hunt moose. Theoretically an AR or any gun that can take AR magazines can hold 10 rounds in the magazine if that magazine was intended to be used in the LAR-15 pistol, since pistols in Canada can hold 10 rounds. It's all horribly weird and convoluted and doesn't make much sense.