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Post by Ruleryak » Mon May 06, 2013 11:08 am

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I was just wondering where the quote in your signature comes from. I also found it here in someone's comment on a YouTube video, but it doesn't appear anywhere else on the internet. There does not appear to be any record of a General Heyk or a General Tim Heyk and the position General of Special Troops of the USA has never existed. I found one other spelling with the quote on a twitter post (Heik) listing him as General of the Air Force, but there is no record of a man with that name in that position either. I'm wondering if it's a translation issue or if perhaps it was something a Russian paratrooper commander made up to get his men psyched up and proud. Are you familiar with the history of the quote?

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Post by housil » Mon May 06, 2013 11:31 am

Urban legend?! :mrgreen: :wink:

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Re: Russian IRP for an exchange

Post by prado67 » Mon May 06, 2013 3:18 pm

Ruleryak wrote:I was just wondering where the quote in your signature comes from. I also found it here in someone's comment on a YouTube video, but it doesn't appear anywhere else on the internet. There does not appear to be any record of a General Heyk or a General Tim Heyk and the position General of Special Troops of the USA has never existed. I found one other spelling with the quote on a twitter post (Heik) listing him as General of the Air Force, but there is no record of a man with that name in that position either. I'm wondering if it's a translation issue or if perhaps it was something a Russian paratrooper commander made up to get his men psyched up and proud. Are you familiar with the history of the quote?
No, I, unfortunately, am not familiar with quote history. But I am familiar with our Russian officer serving in Kosovo, in Yugoslavia ,1999-2002. Also I heard from the first sources that praised heroes with whom the American military show in movies, actually not such, to put it mildly and heroes.Well... I won't go into detail. And not to confuse anybody it is more, the signature I will clean, and that we will swear.
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Re: Russian IRP for an exchange

Post by prado67 » Mon May 06, 2013 3:22 pm

housil wrote:Urban legend?! :mrgreen: :wink:
housil, now I will tell you other city legends from the Country of Eternal Freedom and Democracy. Only from a chair don't fall from laughter.
In turn I want to ask dear Ruleryak to specify the interesting moments under some brilliant American laws.
1 . "In Chico's city in California the penalty to 500 dollars, threatens everyone who will blow up the nuclear device in city boundaries. " - And often so fine? ? ?
2 . "In Sant Luis it is forbidden to sit on a pavement and to drink beer from a bucket. " - And all speak that Russians drink much....
3 . "In Indiana it is forbidden to take bathtubs during the period between October and March. " - it is interesting, what smell costs from October to March in staff?
4 . "In Florida the law forbids to wash under a shower naked. " - In Florida all wash in clothes?
5 . "On Alaska it is forbidden to awake bears that to photograph them, and also, to throw out live elks from the plane. " - here in general without comments....
6 . "In Oklahoma dogs are forbidden to form groups, number three and more if they have no the special permission signed by the mayor. "-Poor dogs.... they should go and sign permission to the mayor... and so each time

In Montana it is possible to be engaged love only in a "missionary" pose. Other poses are forbidden.

In Montana it is illegal to celebrate small need looking up on Sunday.

In Montana it is impossible to carry in a cabin of the car of sheep. But if sheep travel with the shepherd – then it is possible.

Well and the last - there is a wish to wish Ruleryak not to break laws and to be the obedient respectable citizen.
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Re: Russian IRP for an exchange

Post by housil » Mon May 06, 2013 3:32 pm

I read the same book about old but (allegedly) still valid US laws - but this is MRE forums - you are welcome to post and review about food :wink:

"Urban legends" rise from "...somebody wrote it somewhere in the internet..."

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Post by Ruleryak » Mon May 06, 2013 4:28 pm

Just to clear things up, I wasn't trying to start an Urban Legend fight or anything :mrgreen: I'm just not familiar with any US Generals speaking so favorably of the Russian military and was wondering what the origin story happened to be. I'm not quite sure how that devolved into asking me for my insight on some of the sillier laws passed (and for the most part all repealed) in the US since the quote I was asking about had nothing to do with laws.

You missed a fun one though - in Montana it was legal to fire upon any group of seven or more Native Americans until just a few years ago. It was called the War Party law and it was assumed that any group of Natives of that size was "raiding" or preparing for war. Thankfully there were no modern instances of someone trying to actually act on the law while it was still on the books. It was a leftover from the Indian Wars that have been over for more than a century.

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Post by Ruleryak » Mon May 06, 2013 5:52 pm

I just thought of an example in reverse. Many many people in the United States believe the following is an actual quote:

"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass." - Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto, Commander-in-Chief of the Imperial Japanese Navy

I've met people that would swear on all things holy that it was a real and accurate quote. The thing is, it isn't. The Admiral never uttered or wrote those words according to any record whatsoever. The Admiral's aids, and even folks on the US side had records of many things he'd said and there are definitely quotes that are historically attributed to Yamamoto, but that one is popular mainly due to it spreading over the internet without people bothering to verify. Considering there were plans to take portions of the US mainland and considering that there was an outpost and occaisional fighting in the Alaskan territory (it wasn't a state back then) I'm not so sure how that one got going in the first place. The Admiral was not deterred by our preparedness.

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Post by housil » Tue May 07, 2013 3:15 am

Ruleryak wrote:Just to clear things up, I wasn't trying to start an Urban Legend fight or anything :mrgreen:
No need to apologize! It´s an "modern thing" peoples always believe what they read "somewhere in the internet" and start to copie/quote it. That´s how "urban legends" grow up.
I´m with you - I like to proof if such saying´s are real :wink:

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Re: quote in signature

Post by dirtbag » Tue May 07, 2013 2:35 pm

Continuing the OT, there were Japanese attacks on the mainland, one such less than 30 miles from my home.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardment_of_Ellwood

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Re: quote in signature

Post by dirtbag » Tue May 07, 2013 2:41 pm

As for General Heyk, I think It's a mispelling.

There IS a General Haake, who was in the"US Special Operations Command" and recently retired...

http://www.haake-dc.com/genhaake.htm
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