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Hey, guys I know that there are plenty of people here that can help me out. I just want to buy a good set of Gore-tex pants and jacket but, I'm not sure of which countries Cold Weather System is the best. I know that the U.S. has the new Gen III ECWCS system which consists of 7 different layers but, that stuff is stupid expensive. I was also thinking about our Gen II system which you can get for way cheaper but, is it also that much of a inferior product compared to the Gen III?

Then I ran into the Swiss, German, and Dutch Gore-tex systems and so, now I'm really unsure of what I want.....

I need something light and packable, that is absolutely waterproof, breathable, GORE-TEX, and worth the money....PLEASE I NEED YOUR HELP!!!!!!!!!

Thank you again

Mike Kim

if you need ligth weigth and so on, use britsh army gore tex
but they dont have pockets on the gore tex since it can make them leak.
i have 2 sets of british gtex and find them real good.
i also have us army/mc gtex that one is also super
but since i collect us gear i dont want to use it up
btw im pm to you later today.
cheers from norge

Mike:

You're from the good ole' USA and don't know which country makes the Best extreme cold weather gear.

Check out Wiggy's: http://www.wiggys.com/

They make the best of the best.

JFK
P.S. viewtopic.php?t=1640

Mkim340518 wrote:
Then I ran into the ... German,

As we don´t have real winter in Germany, we don´t have "Extreme cold..."

The Bundeswehr (German Army) is using its regular clothing and wear them in layers as follows to increase isolation:

Winter under wear:


Very popular for skiing
I also use it in the sleeping bag

Next layer is regular BDU

Now use the liner (Unterziehjacke Kälteschutz)



Next layer depends if it is dry/cold:

Use parker:


or wet/cold:

take (Goretex) rain suit

This will work in German "winter" (nothing you scandinavian, canadian etc. folks will call a winter!! )

There are some more nice clothings like liner pants:



My favorit:
Pullover :

with undershirt:


The German rain jacket has just two ordenary pockets - nothing else!




Anybody still reading untill here?! Let´s continue...


If it doesn´t need to be a genuine Bundeswehr one, better buy a rain jacket from another manufacturer like:
MILTEC :

€100
http://www.asmc.de/de/Bekleidung/Naesse ... arn-p.html

or Bausenwein :

"just" €179...
http://www.militaerbestaende.de/product ... cts_id=204


I have the MILTEC also:

Darker autum color, not the brighter green as usally Flecktarn has

but for Mrs. Housil we prefer US ECWCS w/ bear suit:

Hi,
I love my regular BW parka, that's really comfortable!
I had a Miltec flecktarn rain jacket (the old "pullover" type) but I found the material was too rigid, the front flap was not really wind/waterproof and the wrist straps were too short to be efficient. I gave it a friend’s son who uses it for airsoft