Bye bye USMC ILBE...welcome to the new USMC Pack

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Re: Bye bye USMC ILBE...welcome to the new USMC Pack

Post by ak70g2 » Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:28 pm

fdsman wrote:Ugh, it's stuff like this that makes me think about just how much money we waste on frivolous things like pack design. First the Corps was too good for a MOLLE rucksack, now they have a modified version of one. It would have been much simpler and cheaper if they'd just adopted the MOLLE system from the get go instead of striving to be different then the rest of the military.
Don't be too hard with American military. Some backpacks aren't too much, and in God-forgetted places like Iraq and Afghanistan a good backpack like This one or like my Berghaus worth its weight in gold. Ask any light infantry type soldier, who carry all the gear in the back. US Army have a good record of wasting money, like the 5 billion $ ACU camouflage or this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Com ... d_Vehicles
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Re: Bye bye USMC ILBE...welcome to the new USMC Pack

Post by fdsman » Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:55 pm

ak70g2 wrote:
fdsman wrote:Ugh, it's stuff like this that makes me think about just how much money we waste on frivolous things like pack design. First the Corps was too good for a MOLLE rucksack, now they have a modified version of one. It would have been much simpler and cheaper if they'd just adopted the MOLLE system from the get go instead of striving to be different then the rest of the military.
Don't be too hard with American military. Some backpacks aren't too much, and in God-forgetted places like Iraq and Afghanistan a good backpack like This one or like my Berghaus worth its weight in gold. Ask any light infantry type soldier, who carry all the gear in the back. US Army have a good record of wasting money, like the 5 billion $ ACU camouflage or this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Com ... d_Vehicles
That just brings up a whole slew of other things we should not be wasting money on. The Israelis and Pre-Apartheid South African military are the best at taking what they have and making the best of it, and making improvements based on genuine disadvantages and not over complicating things.

We should seriously model ours after theirs.
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Re: Bye bye USMC ILBE...welcome to the new USMC Pack

Post by dirtbag » Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:32 am

Its the 'Not invented Here" syndrome...
It's a known fact that the South African, and to a similar extent, Israeli military hard-ware is some of the best in the world.
IE: the 'Buffle"
20 years later, the US adopts the same thing, but calls it something else...
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Re: Bye bye USMC ILBE...welcome to the new USMC Pack

Post by ak70g2 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:03 am

LOL :mrgreen: Give me that USMC pack, some of Treesuit's rations, some good MountainHardware/Arctheryx/other civilian outdoor clothing, those Danner RAT boots, an Glock 19 pistol and an AK47 and let me beat the bush anywhere in the world. Too much "modern armies" forget the basics and are outfought by a bunch of ragweeds on heavy machine gun ridden, battered Toyota Hilux. :mrgreen:
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