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Re: RFID tags

Post by TurtleNomad » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:48 pm

LogDayFreshHots, you are wearing your tin foil hat, but you are also not an idiot, unlike most who rant about this sort of thing.
If you were an idiot, I wouldn't bother replying. ;)

I've been a software engineer for more than two decades, and since 9/11, have spent most of my time on internet anti-abuse (both researching and writing code to fight it).
Privacy is one of my areas of genuine expertise.

Some of your (and others') concerns are legitimate.
Some are not.

Like most new technologies, it is important that people educate themselves about the real issues.

If you are serious about understanding this, you should take the time to read techie stuff, and avoid sensationalist treatments. Most (all?) of the mainstream media does not bother to spend the time to understand what they natter about.

You may have heard of "Cory Doctorow" (the "BoingBoing" guy).
I feel he often oversimplifies complex tech subjects, however, he is a very able science fiction writer, and did write an excellent novel titled "Little Brother", which will give you a much better gut feeling for how regular folks can fight back against some abuses. RFID devices feature prominently.

That will be a lot easier and more fun than wading thru dry techie stuff. :)

If you read it, post back, and we can discuss it in more detail.
That, too, will be more fun. :)

Warning: there's some heavy (often left-leaning) politics in it, which might bother some.
The tech stuff is solid.

If you want to counterbalance that with something more right leaning, the definitive computer revolution novel is Robert Heinlein's "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress". Despite being five decades old, it has stood the test of time. It's also my favorite novel of all time. :)
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Re: RFID tags

Post by LogDayFreshHots » Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:54 pm

Hi TurtleNomad-

Thank you very much for the reply. Believe it or not I don't live in the woods surrounded by barbed wire and dogs. I swear! Hopefully nothing I said was taken the wrong way. I apologize if that was the case. I'm not a conspiracy nut but I do believe the intent of politicians is to gain more power, intrude into our lives more and more, and when giving us an option they make us pay if we don't choose the answer they want us too.

I forgot to mention the articles I referenced were just that. I don't visit those sites and couldn't find the information I was looking for. I did a general search for the key words and those were the most relevent articles I could find dealing with 'Mart and Tesco and their efforts. But the intent of price manipulation to encourage spending money a customer might otherwise save and the electro-magnetic radiation hazzard such technology could produce are legitimate concerns.

Im not a techie. I know thats a surprise! :D Im one of those persons that when surfing Y'tube and finds a posting showing another "NWO Concentration Camp" with someone commenting about the local train facility with security fencing, controlled access, cameras, big buildings, etc., I roll my eyes and shake my head. My cousin works for CSX and big trains require big buildings to do big repairs.

I apologize if I came off as ranting and especially if I was promoting a conspiracy or sensationalizing. I was actually trying to expand on the RFID comments concerning the seller of very fresh MREs.

In the end my genuine intent was simply to tell anyone buying anything with RFID tags to just get rid of the tags if so concerned.

I'll look into the books and I definitely appreciate the imput.

As for the tin foil hat.... the photos were taken at a Holloween party.... the "hat" was part of my "Mobile Booby Examination" costume. :wink:

LDFH
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Re: RFID tags

Post by TurtleNomad » Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:47 am

Phew! I'm glad you took it in the spirit it was meant, LogDayFreshHots. :)

You should enjoy that "Cory Doctorow" novel.
It gives several excellent examples of how easy it is to mess with a system that goes overboard with RFIDs. That stuff was fun, and should reassure you that some gentle social protests can discourage abuse of them.

My main cring with him is that he is blindingly trusting about anonymizing proxies.
Please repeat after me...
Do not trust any "anonymous" proxy.
There is no privacy on the internet.
That 2nd point is definitely a simplification, but it's far more accurate than idiots who claim otherwise. You can do most of your surfing without anyone either noticing or caring about you. Just don't assume you can do something "odd" and escape notice.
I can go into more detail if anyone wants (had started to type a Tome, but figured that might drown out the key warnings).


If you've never read any Heinlein, you're in for a treat!
You might prefer to start with some of his "juveniles", mainly because they're much shorter, and not as heavy, but all still communicate his philosophy. They are not "kids" books - I still regularly re-read them, and I'm pushing 50. :)

If you're into Prepping, I particularly recommend "Tunnel in the Sky" (high school seniors on a final exercise in an extraterrestrial survival course) and "Farmer in the Sky" (future colonists on Ganymede, working towards self sufficiency).

Your Library will have these, or be able to order them.
Many of Heinlein's books are now available in audio form, so you can listen while you drive, wash dishes, fold laundry, inventory your MREs, whatever. :) Again, try your Library - you're (probably) already paying for them, so why not benefit, and "vote" for Heinlein?

You will learn more about freedom, and what citizenship really means than from all the yammerheads in the media. I don't always agree with Heinlein, but in my youth, he was one of the authors who made me think the most.
The important thing is the spices.
A man can live on packaged food from here til Judgement Day if he's got enough Marjoram.
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Re: RFID tags

Post by Cracker » Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:26 am

I might have some bad news for you. RF (barcode RF scanning or RFID) is being introduced to all nato stock items, and it should be implemented before july 2016.
It's a huge logistical advantage, and I know because I work with them.

If your this paranoid about privacy;

don't pay with bankcards/creditcards
do not use mass or public transportation
do not ID yourself at militarybases/health/policestations etc
remove your license plates from your car (else the traffic cams might track you)
don't use a cellphone
don't go online (especially don't shop online for rations, or share personal info on yourself on ration forums)

There is no room for total privacy, some things with basic info are needed. (personal ID, license plates, etc) And i do not know your goverment, but mine wouldn't want to know what I eat to improve sales. Except for that, RFID is not a powered chip. It simply needs the energy from the scanner to emmit data. This makes it useless, because if you would like to scan a house, you would need a powerful scanner. This would overpower the close range chips, rendering them useless... It would simply fry those chips.
Sure, someone may one day kill me with my own gun.
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