German EMS

[Cracker]

There are loooaaads of combinations,

A normal soldier only has some bandage and a tourniquet, a CLS (combat life saver) has bandage, tourniquet, tubing etc.. and a real medic has a full emergency kit (with pain relief, intubation, stitches, etc)
I do not know the full set.

I guess medics also choose what to take with them on a personal bases. When they think they need more of something, they'll just put it in..

[housil]

@ak,
take with you what you are trained and can handle!

It makes no sense to take e.g. a laryngoscope with you and you don´t know how to intubate.

I can´t tell what what´s exactly in a German military medics bag, I was with tanks in 1988.

I can tell you what we have in our paramedic bags on our ambulances, but not even I take all that with me when I´m private.

[norge]

i have this us army/marines kit
its called M3:


cheers ken

[Treesuit]

Norge,

That's quite a nice bag there. I have seen the nicer more modern one that are a bit bigger and can carry more but same design. Also there is the newer Advanced Combat lifesaver bag which is not slung across the shoulder but rather sits high on the wearer's back like a daypack.

I knew most medics/corpsman that carried that similar M3 bag during my times in the service. A good medic/ corpsman would take some wire mesh and mold it to the inside of the bag and then stuff his bag full of what he/she throught they would use the most and then a few extras. Thereby getting more into it without destroying the contents. I agree with Housil, it depends of the individual on what to bring.

[housil]

I have this bag too, but this is made for military purpose with lots of bandage, but no RR cuff, IV´s etc.

So I changed to Molle Medic Bag:










But US woodland camo don´t match with most of my Bundeswehr Flecktarn pattern, so I changed to









That Rucksacks segmentation is similar to that ones we use at work (much bigger), so no big deal to find my stuff in e.g. darkness and hurry.

[Cracker]

Never carry to much on your trip AK70, and don't take stuff that you can't use..

My kit consists of:

* 2 military emergency dressings
* 2 rolls of pressure bandage (enough for 1 knee, or 2 enkles)
* 1 roll of synthetic cottonwhool
* Kit with small stuff like band aids, blister stuff, woundspray (for little bruises)
* 1 tourniquet
* 1 coolpack
* Ibuprofen and Paracetamol painkillers.. (not to be used on wounded people, can be dangerous! only for the day after when we're camping)
* 2 rolls of selffixing bandage in blue and red.. no Idea where I can use them for, but they tend to come in more handy then ducttape..
* 4 rolls of sporttape (because of my own ankle.. and brilliant to prevent blisters/pressure spots on long hikes!)
* Scissors, tweezer, tick tweezer, some sterile needles (to pop blisters)

And some more alcoholwipes, sterilon desinfectant, betadine iodine, betadine bandaids, some stuff for small cuts and bruises etc etc..

There is no use to take stuff that you can't use.. If you can use them, but not allowed to use them.. take them with you anyway, if it might come in handy. But only use them if there is no chance of professional aid, to avoid problems because of lack of experience and law suits..

I use it as a "medic" on the airsoft field, as basic first aid (qualified with the Dutch Oranje Kruis EHBO)

And I always have a normal first aid kit in the car.. (The Netherlands is the onliest country in Europe that doesn't force you by law to have one in your car)

But AK70, if you want to have a good set with you, simply buy a basic first aid kid, and add some betadine iodine, sterilon, sporttape, a tourniquet, pressure bandage and synthetic cottonwhool.. and you'll be as good as ready..

The tourniquet can be worn around your neck..

[Bypah]

Und wie gehts Olli....One question....Are the THW's volunteers ??
Here in the US they have something similar ...the CERT teams.They were created after 9/11. they are mostly volunteers. Although we don't have the equipmet the THW's has.The CERT teams is a work in progress.

[housil]

Und wie gehts Olli....One question....Are the THW's volunteers ??
Here in the US they have something similar ...the CERT teams.They were created after 9/11. they are mostly volunteers. Although we don't have the equipmet the THW's has.The CERT teams is a work in progress.

Ja, the THW (founded 1950) are like the (little) fire departments volunteers, but there is a third option:

Germany still has conscription.
Every male must join the Army for at least 9 month.
But if you can´t shot at peoples from your conscience, your religion etc. you can become a "consientious objector", means you don´t need to go to the army (IF they accept your arguments. When I got my draft in 1987, it was still a trail at court!) BUT you have to go to some social service for also 9 month (hospitals, retirement home, children home etc).

Plan "C" is, join the fire deparment, the red cross or even the THW at civial protection for 6 years. Doing exercises and responding calls like floods, avalanges etc.. That´s why the Army don´t do it.
If you want, you can also respond to foreign country missions like now, Haiti earth quake relief and search and rescue oprations of buried casulties.

THW is very well equieped with machines and material to handle floods, colapsed buildings etc. They are not for fighting fires nor medical relief.
e.g. they can errect refugee camps with tents.

MAN KAT truck:


Same like at Bundeswehr:


The THW is the "engineer corps" of the civial protection


Didn´t know about CERT, that´s a good thing!

[ak70g2]

This is my med kit:

Left "flap" - three bandages:

Central pouch:

- an Underwater Kinetics eLED 2AAA flashlight (added by me)
- moist towelette (added by me)
- surgical gloves
- rescue/emergency blanket
- small band aids

Right pouch:

- triangular bandage
- compresse
- scissor
- 2 OB tampons
- an Esbit fuel tab, wrapped in foil
- emergency whistle
- water purification tablets (Katadyn Micropur Forte)
- medical adhesive tape
- in the ziplok plastic bags (Aquarius, thank you again) is an array of medicine, starting with antibiotics (oxaciline), Ibuprofen, anti-hystamine (Claritine), stomach anti-acid, aspirine, etc.
- Kanamicine ointment for eyes.
- small compass (Recta Gem)
- small roud piece of soap.

[Cracker]

the small tampons are great when you have a nose bleed..


But you should add some sterilon and/or betadine .. sterilon to clean cuts and bruises, and betadine to keep it clean when you apply a band aid or bandage on small wounds.

And please remember never to use moist towelettes on wounds, most of them have somesort of soap or moisturizer.. that might effect the wound healing or the effectiveness from some other first aid items like desinfectant etc..
+ It greases up the skin, so that bandaids don't stick anymore

Also add a lightweight tourniquet.. it's quite light, and you'll (hopefully) never need it. But it's just something you have to have as a search and rescue person.

When someone has a complex bone fracture, pieces of bone can slice through arteries etc, and bleed like mad.
It's very smart to take a tourniquet for such reasons..

Antibiotics are good, but are only to be used under to supervision of qualified medical personal.
Using antibiotics for useless things will make bacteria immune after a while, so that the next treatment (when you might really need it) doesn't work properly. That's a huge problem in Europe with the Multi Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus.. (MRSA) that simply doesn't react on antibiotics anymore.

Some antibiotics also influence other medicines that people might be using, but I'm not very good in what can go with what, but the pill (anti conception) is affected, so it probably goes for other medicines aswell. Maybe Housil can tell you a bit more about this..