An Iraq war hero's widow in need

Post by **kman** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:26 pm

File this under "Two people I'd like to meet alone in a dark alley with a baseball bat":

From MichelleMalkin.com today:

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/21/an ... w-in-need/

An Iraq war hero’s widow in need
By Michelle Malkin • January 21, 2008 10:31 AM

Please read this post from The Bashman at Pat Dollard’s site about Iraq war widow Julie Shumney, the widow of Bronze Star recipient 1st Lt. Dustin Shumney, who died in a helicopter crash near Ar Rutbah in 2005.

The Shumneys could use your help.

This is the tale of two men who preyed upon this widow and her fatherless children, in their time of trouble, and bilked them out of $57,000:

http://patdollard.com/2008/01/widow-of- ... -of-57000/

BigMark · Post by **BigMark** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:16 pm

What was it P.T. Barnum said?

Anyway, buying into a business without seeing anything is foolish, I should join a church and sell bridges.

Post by **kman** » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:02 pm

Foolish, maybe, but don't forget that this woman and her family just underwent a horrible loss. Recently widowed, trying to make sense of it all, wanting to do some good - at times like this you might not be thinking as clearly, too - and that's just what these scumbags were looking for.

Calling up your average joe out of the phonebook and trying to get him to buy into your Nigerian lottery scam is one thing...but going after a widow and her children...that deserves a special place in hell.

BigMark · Post by **BigMark** » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:09 am

Ahh, agreed, but greed gets the best of everyone, maybe she thought she was doing what was best for her kids, but 50k in the bank is better than paying for the kids to go to college.

tabitha · Post by **tabitha** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:25 pm

Patdollard.com is not letting me post this, so anywhere that is telling this story is where I will post this...I am Kenneth Waters

This is Kenneth Waters

· I do not have a criminal background
· I have never threatened anyone (Julie, you must have not known that this would put my family or I in danger)
· I have not spoke to Julie since November 2005 (have never been contacted by a lawyer for that matter)
· I was told it was $40,000. Which was deposited into Jeff’s personal account (where did the extra $17000 come from)
· Julie told Jeff that I didn’t owe her any thing.

Julie, you have to stop this. This is not the truth. If it where you would have contacted a lawyer. I would urge you to. At least in court I can testify to what actually happened. You encourage my name and home address (where my wife and four kids are) on a website that proclaims God one minute and yet says their going to pay my family a “visit at 4:30am” and “going to mow the grass” the next.

Yes, I had an ebay business. Jeff talked me into a partnership with Julie to start a larger business. Julie funded $40,000 to start it. We worked out of my house to keep cost low. (Julie, I told Jeff that I transferred $32.00 from his paypal to mine for payment. What did he tell you? I got fired over a $32.00 misunderstanding and now all these lies.) While I was “in business” with them I was paid and so was Jeff. I bought a $1500.00 white ford escort and made my regular monthly mortgage payments. My wife worked full time for Homeland Security.

Julie,
I moved all the merchandise from my garage to the warehouse.
I left you my account information and contacts where you could by your product from for resale.
I left you my forklift - $1500.00, four(4) pallet racks - $1200.00, a computer, icebox, all my testing equipment and tables.

Guys, I could see how you can get angry reading this story. Man if I read this (with out knowing the truth) I would want something done. The truth is there is not validity to this story. Julie invested in a start up business that did not do well after I left.

Julie, it was never my fault Jeff didn’t know how to run an ebay business. Remember the Gensser and Jeff business? Jeff was only with us for three(3) months. He knew nothing about running that business, ask Chris, I ran it.

I am a Christian, I have the light of God living in me through the Lord Jesus Christ. I pray that the Holy Spirit will put the truth in your hearts.

Julie, I don’t know what you want to accomplish by doing this, but be assured this is not the right way.

Now JGLM, I have never worked for JGLM or represented them in anyway. There have been wrongful allegations brought forth and hateful emails. I ask in light of the truth that they stop. Curry has been a blessing to our family.

I will accept any personal emails concerning this matter as no matter what is said after I post this I will not respond on this blog.

I respectfully ask that the threats stop, my wife is calling me crying and scared. Man, what are ya’ll trying to do? I don’t know if there is anything that I can do legally or not but this story has to be stopped.

Thank you and Be Blessed!

Post by **kman** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:40 pm

Tabitha/Kenneth - I really would have preferred if you would have run this by me before you posted it to the forums. We have a pretty open policy here on MREInfo.com but when it's something controversial like this appears to be...and especially when it's as personal as this appears to be...it's best to run it by the board admin first.

But having that...

Wow...what a mess. If you go back to the original posting at Pat Dollard's site: http://patdollard.com/2008/01/widow-of- ... -of-57000/ and read through some of the comments, you can see what a mess this has turned into.

You've read Pat's story and now you've read Kenneth's side. I won't lock the thread (anymore) so feel free to comment away. Kenneth/Tabitha said he/she won't be posting here anymore so any responses to him/her might go unnoticed.

C-rats · Post by **C-rats** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:12 pm

Kman ---- May I openly encourage you to delete that garbage and ban that individual from this site?

That crap has no place on this website ---- we're not a clearing house for winers or anyone else wishing to air their dirty laundry and quite frankly, it ruins the intent and purpose (and the innocense, if you will) of this site. Please trash it.

Post by **kman** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:23 pm

C-rats...I was tempted to delete the post (or maybe just the whole thread) at first but then it occurred to me that I was one who posted the original message anyway and got this started. I figured I'd just let both sides post their versions and let you guys work things out for yourselves.

However...if I see one more mention of lawyer or lawsuit, that delete button is going to become much more attractive.