Army Future: Technology and Leadership Today
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I don't see why you should offend me personally?
I also don't understand why you always simply try to interpret stuff wrong, to make it look like contradictories, just to crush my point. I'm not a troll, and I'm not trying to troll in any way. If I just stepped on your patriotic toes by saying the Europeans doing a better job at development at the moment, and the Australians came a shore better prepared in Vietnam.. That's not fiction but the bitter truth. Watch some more on the history channel and programs about technologics. It might also be nice to read through some info on new joint European projects, that are actually taking shape.
In my oppinion, it doesn't matter that you are a moderator or admin. Your general attitude is quite hostile and extremely childish in my eyes. Instead of just waving off my (clearly unargumented and totally stupid) arguments, please state the correct thing. I'm always open for new thoughts and ideas. Don't just say it's not right and then don't reinforce it with arguments.
And just for the record, yes I grew up in the Netherlands, but I don't do drugs. I am even against them. And I even find it highly offence that you even dare to say that.
With this kind of childish behaviour I actually find it surprising that they grant you admin rights on this forum. Whilst the other moderators are much more professional and mature in their reactions.
I also don't understand why you always simply try to interpret stuff wrong, to make it look like contradictories, just to crush my point. I'm not a troll, and I'm not trying to troll in any way. If I just stepped on your patriotic toes by saying the Europeans doing a better job at development at the moment, and the Australians came a shore better prepared in Vietnam.. That's not fiction but the bitter truth. Watch some more on the history channel and programs about technologics. It might also be nice to read through some info on new joint European projects, that are actually taking shape.
In my oppinion, it doesn't matter that you are a moderator or admin. Your general attitude is quite hostile and extremely childish in my eyes. Instead of just waving off my (clearly unargumented and totally stupid) arguments, please state the correct thing. I'm always open for new thoughts and ideas. Don't just say it's not right and then don't reinforce it with arguments.
And just for the record, yes I grew up in the Netherlands, but I don't do drugs. I am even against them. And I even find it highly offence that you even dare to say that.
With this kind of childish behaviour I actually find it surprising that they grant you admin rights on this forum. Whilst the other moderators are much more professional and mature in their reactions.
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The Taliban where effective in "repulsing" the Soviet Union, THANKS to the millions of dollars funneled by the CIA, Rumsfeld and the Reagan administration sent to them in "medical and humanitarian aid" (a.k.a Stinger missiles,ammunition,CIA advisors and other vital intelligence) in order to be used it against the soviet troops.jfko6 wrote:Those rebels are that effective, because they DO think.. but they are not military, and therefore lack the resources..
Because they are not military does not mean they lack resources. The Taliban were effective at repulsing the Soviet Union.
They use them as proxy troops aganinst the soviets....

Let's not forget the ties between Osama Bin Laden, the Taliban and its mujahadeen with the US goverment and its intelligence services.




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Yeah Bypah -- Agreed. But at that time they were our allies. Communism was the scourge of civilization at the time. It eventually fell.Bypah wrote:jfko6 wrote:Those rebels are that effective, because they DO think.. but they are not military, and therefore lack the resources..
Because they are not military does not mean they lack resources. The Taliban were effective at repulsing the Soviet Union.
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The Taliban where effective in "repulsing" the Soviet Union, THANKS to the millions of dollars funneled by the CIA, Rumsfeld and the Reagan administration sent to them in "medical and humanitarian aid" (a.k.a Stinger missiles,ammunition,CIA advisors and other vital intelligence) in order to be used it against the soviet troops.
They use them as proxy troops aganinst the soviets....![]()
Let's not forget the ties between Osama Bin Laden, the Taliban and its mujahadeen with the US goverment and its intelligence services.![]()
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With al due respect. the Green Berets WHERE rookies when it came to jungle warfare.they where created in 1952 as part of the new U.S. Clandestine HUMINT and Covert Action program back then.Before they where the OSSS trained by the British Commandos in urban clandestine operations back in WWII.jfko6 wrote:Sorry, but this is a Lie. Kennedy did not send Rookies in as advisers. He sent Green Berets.



Still until this day guerrilla warfare and urban warfare (asymetric warfare) are a thorn in the side of the US military.but they are learning fast from their mistakes.

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Communism didn't "fell". they simply called it quits....
It was unsustainable and when Gorby tried to do some changes to the system 9perestroika and glasnost) the harline elements messed things up plus we had Yeltsin already in the CIA payroll that accelerated the USSR demise.

I think your joking here -- I hope.<----Who ever did this...is not right!!!!!!!
Mr. Gorbachev: "Tear Down this Wall!"
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JUST TO LET THIS BE KNOW...I DIDN'T POST THIS VIDEO OR THIS POST ON THIS THREAD.....SOMEBODY ELSE DID!!
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It was unsustainable and when Gorby tried to do some changes to the system 9perestroika and glasnost) the harline elements messed things up plus we had Yeltsin already in the CIA payroll that accelerated the USSR demise.




I think your joking here -- I hope.<----Who ever did this...is not right!!!!!!!



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Sure you could debate that "Green Berets WHERE rookies." But the Green Berets were professional soldiers. We did not loose militarily. NEVER lost one battle. All objectives were taken. The confidence of the American people were lost. Had we continued on for another year the back of the NVA would have been completely broken.Bypah wrote:jfko6 wrote:Sorry, but this is a Lie. Kennedy did not send Rookies in as advisers. He sent Green Berets.
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With al due respect. the Green Berets WHERE rookies when it came to jungle warfare.they where created in 1952 as part of the new U.S. Clandestine HUMINT and Covert Action program back then.Before they where the OSSS trained by the British Commandos in urban clandestine operations back in WWII.They learned from their mistakes in the art of jungle warfare and guerilla tactics when the dealt against the Viet Cong contrary to popular beleifs (..and the John Wayne movies
). It was after Vietnam and the lessons learned there that they became what they are today.
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Still until this day guerrilla warfare and urban warfare (asymetric warfare) are a thorn in the side of the US military.but they are learning fast from their mistakes.
This implies that the United States fighting men were rookies hence incapable of winning the hearts and minds of the Vietnamese people. Mistakes were made no doubt. Should we have ever been there? That's for history I think.
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Cracker arguments are valid and they should be respected as the ones of everyone esl here in the forums.
Also the comments made is this thread are acceptable for the tittle and subject of the thread IMHO. We need to respect others opinions and arguments even if we don't like them.
After all this is what out country represents...FREEDOM of ideas and expression.
Respecting other people's ideas..that FREEDOM my friend...
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Also the comments made is this thread are acceptable for the tittle and subject of the thread IMHO. We need to respect others opinions and arguments even if we don't like them.
After all this is what out country represents...FREEDOM of ideas and expression.
Respecting other people's ideas..that FREEDOM my friend...
Peace!

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Give me an SVD sniper rifle and I'll block any tank, IFV or armored car. I'll shoot optical/vision blocks and blind it. After, I can kill all the crew, one by one. And I'll disable any plane or radar, shooting engines or radar dishes.
Give me an RPG and I'll tear apart anything to pieces.
Give me some ammonium nitrate and diesel fuel and I'll blow anything up.
Cracker, you can kill that Stryker very easy with an RPG, shooting from above. The armor is thinner upper side any tank or IFV. This is the first thing I was learned about armor in the Romanian Marines.
Technology is a wonderful thing, but when the batteries are dead, all you can do is pray for your men, to fight at most basic level, with fists, boots, knives and victorious is the most determined men.
Throw away that poodle shooter M16 and get a serious weapon. And thanks God for AK47.
Read this, JFKO:
http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/documents/battle.htm
Give me an RPG and I'll tear apart anything to pieces.
Give me some ammonium nitrate and diesel fuel and I'll blow anything up.
Cracker, you can kill that Stryker very easy with an RPG, shooting from above. The armor is thinner upper side any tank or IFV. This is the first thing I was learned about armor in the Romanian Marines.
Technology is a wonderful thing, but when the batteries are dead, all you can do is pray for your men, to fight at most basic level, with fists, boots, knives and victorious is the most determined men.
Throw away that poodle shooter M16 and get a serious weapon. And thanks God for AK47.
Read this, JFKO:
http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/documents/battle.htm
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Very interesting article.
Basically it was a "mini" Stalingrad, in reverse.
In 1944-5 the Soviet army had become perhaps the best in the world at FIBUA or FISH (fighting in someones house) Learned the hard way at Stalingrad and in dozens of other cities across Russia and Europe.
But it is true. Every army forgets. Even its once best speciality.
Grozney appears to have been exacebated by the usual appalling Russian (Soviet) personnell choices of missions, and lack of cross training etc. The Chetchens were doing no more than the classic insurgency tactics that work so well when up against a brainless giant. There are scores of examples of this in history.
Then Russian forces only finally had success when they went back to tactics that had been perfected by Chuikov at Stalingrad in 1942!
The almost overwhelming stresses of intense urban combat was also re noted. See the accounts of any German or Russian Stalingrad survivor.
Interesting points. Re-emergence of the man pack flamethrower. A model with a 1000 metre RANGE??
The ancient counter insurgency tactic of checking for shoulder bruises. The French Government forces did this in 1871 in Paris when they were checking for the Communards after the fighting was over. Bruised shoulder or gunpowder smears etc, = a 1 way trip to the Pere Lachaise cemetary wall to be shot.
Latterly the IDF, no slouches in urban combat, have gone into hyperdrive emphasising training and new tactics and equipment in FIBUAs. The high command was dissatisfied at certain aspects of the 2006 war.
Thats how you deal with tactical issues. Always learn and develop. Armies cannot afford NOT to be hyper -critical of their performance now, even if the operation was an apparent success.
Basically it was a "mini" Stalingrad, in reverse.
In 1944-5 the Soviet army had become perhaps the best in the world at FIBUA or FISH (fighting in someones house) Learned the hard way at Stalingrad and in dozens of other cities across Russia and Europe.
But it is true. Every army forgets. Even its once best speciality.
Grozney appears to have been exacebated by the usual appalling Russian (Soviet) personnell choices of missions, and lack of cross training etc. The Chetchens were doing no more than the classic insurgency tactics that work so well when up against a brainless giant. There are scores of examples of this in history.
Then Russian forces only finally had success when they went back to tactics that had been perfected by Chuikov at Stalingrad in 1942!
The almost overwhelming stresses of intense urban combat was also re noted. See the accounts of any German or Russian Stalingrad survivor.
Interesting points. Re-emergence of the man pack flamethrower. A model with a 1000 metre RANGE??

The ancient counter insurgency tactic of checking for shoulder bruises. The French Government forces did this in 1871 in Paris when they were checking for the Communards after the fighting was over. Bruised shoulder or gunpowder smears etc, = a 1 way trip to the Pere Lachaise cemetary wall to be shot.
Latterly the IDF, no slouches in urban combat, have gone into hyperdrive emphasising training and new tactics and equipment in FIBUAs. The high command was dissatisfied at certain aspects of the 2006 war.
Thats how you deal with tactical issues. Always learn and develop. Armies cannot afford NOT to be hyper -critical of their performance now, even if the operation was an apparent success.
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Bravo Bravo, I was stunned about the "new vawe" of russian weaponry...
Just a few examples:
Just a few examples:
'cuz hunting ain't catch and release...