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Life is so hard :(

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:45 pm
by jubifahrer
Long time not here:

Today i made my yearly basement check, but see pictures:

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belive me, my basement is perfect. less temperature variation, original build for vine storage 200 years ago.

But now iam confirmed that these plastic packaging is not made for long life. Nothing was older than 5 years :(

Bye jubifahrer

Re: Life is so hard :(

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:30 pm
by mreheater72
Rudi, that is really sad :cry: :cry: :cry: ! I have made the same experience: Most of that cakes were delivered FROZEN, after thawing they have a really short shelf-life (some weeks). In addition that foil trays often have tiny holes, for whatever reason. I stopped buying those cakes since at least two years. Most of the cakes of that kind ebay sellers offer are already bad at the time they were sold :!: :!: :!: . Only the cakes in the good old metal trays have a very long shelf-life, that new ones are sh..t :( :evil:

So long mreheater72

Re: Life is so hard :(

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:35 pm
by cavguy
mreheater72 is correct, those cakes and cupcakes are designed to be kept frozen and then thawed prior to the meal then served immediately, however some of the newer trays (almond cupcakes only one I know off hand) are shelf stable meaning they can be stored without refrigeration.

Re: Life is so hard :(

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:35 pm
by Name_not_found
Thanks for posting

I think the waffles were just bad luck, that packaging is pretty solid unless it was banged around alot.

The other packages are not made for long term storage and I'm not surprised to see this.

Its interesting that the Sterling did a little better than the Pangea brand though, that banana cake looks like it has a full length wool coat!

Re: Life is so hard :(

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:08 pm
by housil
Ouch... :cry:

So no T-18 for your birthday on Saturday?

Re: Life is so hard :(

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:38 am
by German_EPA
i know what you feel. had the same problems :(
especially with the pudding cakes - storage was also perfect but... what to say....

Re: Life is so hard :(

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:35 pm
by mreheater72
cavguy wrote:… those cakes and cupcakes are designed to be kept frozen and then thawed prior to the meal then served immediately, however some of the newer trays (almond cupcakes only one I know off hand) are shelf stable meaning they can be stored without refrigeration.
Here is a list with UGR-A items which were issued frozen or non-frozen:

http://up.picr.de/7933783agw.pdf

So take care what rations you get :!: :!: Some years ago I bought a huge amount of foil ration cakes (if they are fresh, they taste really great :D ) at a German flea market: After storing them in my basement for a few weeks I throw all of them in my pond :cry: ! So at least the fish had a good chow :) :cry: !

So long mreheater72

Re: Life is so hard :(

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:55 pm
by Bypah
I had some of those T-18 trays and believe me they hold the "test of time" real good. Ask cavguy :wink: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Now that I see this I have to check my waffle stash to see if they are good. :D :D
Usually is the humidity as they were frozen and it keeps inside the package .Add to that sugar and a nice dark place were the temps can rise a little bit and you will have a nice happy colony of fungus munching on your sweets. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: Life is so hard :(

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:57 pm
by Treesuit
What about dessert items in the newer polymer trays? I have a few 2010 desserts and after reading this I wonder if they'll stand up. :?

Re: Life is so hard :(

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:30 pm
by Name_not_found
What about dessert items in the newer polymer trays?
The polymer trays, although not as robust as the metal, will last quite well compared to the "store packaged" style desserts.

The "store packaged" style are more o2 permeable, as well as allowing light right through the pack because they are clear.

I cant guarantee this, but i doubt they are sealed in a o2 free environment, or lacking that, nitrogen purged.

In other words:
Metal t-18 = canned
Polymer t-18 = retort pouch
"store packaged" t-18 = commercial food not meant for storage other than being frozen