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Field rations failing soldiers - great article

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:09 pm
by kman
My rss newsreader has been picking up a lot of stories about how MREs just aren't cutting it for some of the troops in Afghanistan. I think the whole story originated from one reporter's short blurb and quickly balloned into a raft of copycat stories all saying "MRE sucks", "soldiers are starving", etc. None of those articles bothered to actually expand on the suckage or what was causing the soldiers to "starve".

So when I read this latest article from The Chicago Tribune, I thought it was going to be more of the same. But after two pages of reading, it turns out this is one of the best, most well-researched articles out there on the state of current MREs and some of their possible deficiencies.

I'll post an excerpt but I'd encourage everyone to check out the whole story.

From: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... &cset=true
Field rations failing soldiers
Amid reports of weight loss, troops to try meal that has more calories

By Aamer Madhani
Tribune national correspondent
Published March 25, 2007

NATICK, Mass. -- When Lt. Dave Moore visited infantry units in the remote, rugged mountains of Afghanistan late last year, the Navy medical officer was surprised to hear from many soldiers and Marines that they had lost significant weight.

After conducting more than 150 interviews with medics, officers and troops on the ground, Moore concluded that the portable rations called "Meals, Ready-to-Eat"--long derided by troops, but valued by the Pentagon for their indestructibility--were not doing the job, causing the soldiers to shed pounds that they very much needed.

"The standard Meal, Ready to Eat (MRE) does not provide adequate nutrition for dismounted operations in this type of terrain," Moore wrote in his report. "Many Marines and soldiers lost 20 to 40 pounds of bodyweight during their deployment. At least one soldier was evacuated due to malnutrition and a 60-pound weight loss."

Moore's conclusions have raised concern among military leaders, as well as designers of the field rations at the Natick Soldier Research, Development & Engineering Center outside Boston.

Moore stressed in an interview that the service members he surveyed represented only a small portion of those fighting in Afghanistan -- infantry troops deployed to desolate locations where MREs and local cuisine were the only options--but nonetheless he concluded that up to 1,300-calorie MREs were falling short.

[Click the above link for the whole story]

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:53 pm
by dirtbag
Yes, this goes way back. The 'combat' rations were and are meant to be used for only a short time, 5-10 days max. During that time, foward feeding areas were supposed to be set up, and regular meals served.Instead, they get MRe's for months on end.
The problem is that the cooks are back at the main bases, and never venture out to the remote areas and also, MRe's and the like are logistically simple...
Order and disburse, no preparing, cooking, cleaning etc. The have made feeding the troops too simple.
There should be a 'supplement' pack, with additional foods, served to the troops. They know when they're hungry!
After seeing the international rat packs, the MRE's don't look too good !,Yes, I know the international packs are of the 24 hour variety, but lay out 3 MRe's next to them and they still are lacking, in nutrition and just plain calories... and bulk!
Backpacking guides recomend 6,000 to 8,000 kcals per day. 3 MRE's are 4,500 max. No wonder they're starving !

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:38 am
by Stef
Hmm, I guess soldiers on the field, running with all their equipment and (eventually) eating rations will certainly loose more weight that the same guys in a camp doing minor tasks and eating pizzas ans hambugers all the day :wink: *



*strange it remind me my 20 years, the barracks and all the good meals the chef used to cook :lol:

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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:04 pm
by DangerousDave
and I mean all of our personnel eat like Kings, from the lowest 11B to the highest 00Z. Why is this a discussion. The entire Walter Reed thing was/still is an entire hoax. Don't even try it, hillary! 8)

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:01 pm
by kman
It looks like someone from Natick responded to the Chicago Tribune's article. You can find the link and full article here:

http://www.mreinfo.com/news/2007/04/04/ ... ming-mres/

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:26 pm
by BigMark
Never been in the armed forces, let me say that first. I just don't buy that eating a meat pattie for breakfast would be appealing every day, no matter how hungry.. the breakfast MRE is okay at best and there's one in every A case.. that's not much to go around. That's why they're losing weight, crackers and jam'll do ya, but doesn't get you far. At least that's my opinion, I'm sure stress'll fuck you up too.