Pizza is Back

[Sailswish]

Gastropod podcast has a story on the making of MRE pizza.

[parafireboy]

An article on Military.com about the new pizza MRE. . .

https://www.military.com/kitup/2018/05/ ... -soon.html

[Eistee]

An article on Military.com about the new pizza MRE. . .

https://www.military.com/kitup/2018/05/ ... -soon.html

Awesome, i was wondering if they will make the pizza as a side but seems like its gonna be a seperate Menu.
Its good to know that they will start assembling soon, that means i have to keep a lookout for 2022 insp date MREs, lol

[Woodland]

MRE Menu No. 40 is set to bring a new meal plus a bunch of snacks to troops in training and overseas in 2020:

Italian Sausage in Marinara Sauce
High Protein Pudding, Chocolate
Recovery Crunchy O Shaped Snack
BBQ flavored Recovery Beef Jerky Trail Mix
Sweet and Spicy Recovery Salted Caramel Rice and Soy Crisp Bar
Chocolate Hazelnut Protein Smoothie

"High Protein Pudding", "Protein Smoothie"... The new (not only marketing) craze.Call something "high protein" or just "protein" and people will love and buy it.
Anyone noticed that the "old" Dairy Shake and the new "Chocolate Drink Protein Powder" are the same thing (same ingredients,and nutritional value) just the name is different?Those marketing people are playing with the consumer's mind as if they were instruments.
I also don't understand why does NATICK want to encourage water consumption with sweet,high sugar beverage powders that make you more thirsty because of the sugar...

[Richard w.]

I've come think that a high fat, moderate protein diet works best for me at least for energy and endurance, but I think Natick still believes that high carb works best for Warfighters.


I don't know. They have a lot of highly educated people working there, so maybe they are right.

[SentientTootsieRoll]

I don't know. They have a lot of highly educated people working there, so maybe they are right.

I can certainly appreciate that. It really annoys me when people think they know more than the engineers/scientists who went to school, spent hours reading the books and studying the material and went on to get a job where they have years of experience and factual data that has led to them making the decisions they have made. And despite that, someone with no experience or formal understanding of food science thinks they know better. My advice to them: if you know better, go work for Natick or some other company that specializes in that line of work.

[carlosflar]

There are some studies that show that lighter meals less separated in time and with more snacking are better for efficiency in high intensity scenarios than other diets
It was tested with firefighters in spain some time ago
With rations, that would be having regular siced entrees, a lot of sugary drinks for energy and hidratation and snacks. If you have a mix between complex carbohydrates(bread, rice, pasta) and simple sugars(honey, sugar in drinks or pastries etc) you get a more stable energy source with less waste products like you would do if you made it with fats.
But keep in mind that this applies to people with a much larger calorie need than average, for regular people, the average balanced diet is the best way to go

[Woodland]

I don't know. They have a lot of highly educated people working there, so maybe they are right.

I can certainly appreciate that. It really annoys me when people think they know more than the engineers/scientists who went to school, spent hours reading the books and studying the material and went on to get a job where they have years of experience and factual data that has led to them making the decisions they have made. And despite that, someone with no experience or formal understanding of food science thinks they know better. My advice to them: if you know better, go work for Natick or some other company that specializes in that line of work.

You don’t need to spend 5 years at some university if you want to know something or have questions.You don’t buy a farm and cows if you want milk.You have access to peer reviewed studies,science literature and can ask those who are trained experts.Thanks to the internet.
It is also true that there are many schools and approaches regarding nutrition and health which are sometimes conflicting.
Back to the subject.Drinking sweet drinks makes you crave for more and you will be still thirsty.This is my experience.The theory behind the sweetened drinks may be that people love sodas more than water. I may be wrong.I read that thing about encouraging water consumption in some official document years ago.
I read NATICK’s public docs about why and how they develop ration items.They also use sport nutrition principles,and they have priorities and limitations because of miliary requirements.Soldiers in combat burn calories like crazy and sweat buckets and MREs may be good for them,short term. But they are still human beings and it seems to me as if the developed world (especially the US) had some problems with sugar (corn syrup,fructose) consumption…

[Woodland]

There are some studies that show that lighter meals less separated in time and with more snacking are better for efficiency in high intensity scenarios than other diets
It was tested with firefighters in spain some time ago
With rations, that would be having regular siced entrees, a lot of sugary drinks for energy and hidratation and snacks. If you have a mix between complex carbohydrates(bread, rice, pasta) and simple sugars(honey, sugar in drinks or pastries etc) you get a more stable energy source with less waste products like you would do if you made it with fats.
But keep in mind that this applies to people with a much larger calorie need than average, for regular people, the average balanced diet is the best way to go

This is what I meant and this is what I do myself when I do sports and need energy.Except a lot of sugary drinks.Wholegrain bread and some honey and water ,small protein bar (with sugar),some bread (fiber) plus water.Fruits (banana).There are wet pack fruits and Fruit puree and Zapplesauce in MREs (unfortunatelly with HFCS).Better than sweet water.
Sugar and water alone sucks IMO.