Heaters can we use snow?

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Re: Heaters can we use snow?

Post by DangerousDave » Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:08 pm

Excuse Me!? Snow? Is that the stuff that evaporates or melts. According to AlGORE, there is no snow. No Ice. No Polar Bears. Funny, I saw this sick commercial on CNN, about the Polar bears are all waxed, and if you send this outfit 16$ a month, they send you a photo of a dead polar bear. :roll:
After the Chicken and the Egg, came the "Omelet"!

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Re: Heaters can we use snow?

Post by AzureLupine » Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:18 pm

I wondered when somebody would consider using "other" forms of water, (personally 'passed' for quality :shock: ) however, if your son was snowmobiling, a metal canteen cup kept neat the engine, radiator or exhaust would heat snow sufficiently to activate an FRH, however, a couple of retorts kept near a hot surface (see above) would also heat them.

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I did it

Post by housil » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:38 am

While watching him...

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(today is a statutory holiday in Germany :P ) our "buddy up there" did us a favour over here:

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I took a 2004 FRH
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filled it up with snow

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and waited...
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and waited...
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and waited...
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nothing :cry: after 20min.



to be continued...

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I did it Part II

Post by housil » Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:51 am

The FRH inside was dry as a pampers in the morning...

As the FRH need to get wet to start, I tryed to melt some snow inside with the "heat" of my hand...

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...but just my hand got f***king cold

Next I tryed to melt it with
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body heat. (scary of having an "cooking" FRH under my armpit... :shock: )

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The first wet "spot", causing some bubbling noise and steam, but noth enough heat to melt the other snow inside the FRH to start a chain reaction.

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that´s after 45min. Some melted snow, two "wet" sections but not soaked! The FRH was off now.

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:?:

I spent an hour outside...
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Operate an FRH with snow?
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BUSTED


You´ll need some liquid first :!:

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Re: I did it Part II

Post by kman » Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:03 am

housil wrote:As the FRH need to get wet to start, I tryed to melt some snow inside with the "heat" of my hand...
...but just my hand got f***king cold
Heh heh...that has to be the best line of the whole review. :-)

How about this...take a Hot Beverage Bag, fill it full of snow, seal it, and place it "somewhere warm" on your body. Let that snow melt, then pour it into the FRH.

I'd love to try this myself but it looks like this is going to be another snowless winter here in Charlotte and I don't have any travel planned to cold climates anytime soon. But wait a minute...I'm going to be driving to Nashville, TN, next week and the trip will take me through the Smoky Mountains. I'll bring an FRH and HBB just in case I pass some snow on the road!

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Re: Heaters can we use snow?

Post by housil » Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:05 am

kman wrote: (...)
You could put the MRE entree in the water to heat it up and then use the water for drinking afterwards.
Please don´t do that!

"...the hot water releases (rat repallant) chemicals from the outside of the pounch and can cause diarrhea..." :shock:

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Re: Heaters can we use snow?

Post by kman » Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:14 am

housil wrote:"...the hot water releases (rat repallant) chemicals from the outside of the pounch and can cause diarrhea..." :shock:
Seriously? I hadn't heard that before...where did you find that useful nugget of information?

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Re: I did it Part II

Post by housil » Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:18 am

kman wrote:
How about this...take a Hot Beverage Bag, fill it full of snow, seal it, and place it "somewhere warm" on your body. Let that snow melt, then pour it into the FRH.
Something like that!
It would be nice to figure out how warm an entree will get while heating up outside at subzero.
But if I go outside again, I will get some more "trouble" for "...what are you doing there outside again?!?!?! All the neighbours are watching YOU... " :oops:
I didn´t told Mrs. Housil I´d like to test (all) my sleeping bags outside on our balcony yet...

kman wrote: I'd love to try this myself but it looks like this is going to be another snowless winter here in Charlotte and I don't have any travel planned to cold climates anytime soon. But wait a minute...I'm going to be driving to Nashville, TN, next week and the trip will take me through the Smoky Mountains. I'll bring an FRH and HBB just in case I pass some snow on the road!
I saw a travel report about the Smoky Mountains. Very nice place to go!!

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Re: Heaters can we use snow?

Post by housil » Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:29 am

kman wrote: Seriously? I hadn't heard that before...where did you find that useful nugget of information?
Yes.
I remeber warnings never (!) to open the pounches with the mouth/teeth from some of my Army Manual´s or Medic Training Manuals as they are "coverd" with some rat repallant.
I found it again at the Canteen Cup Cookery (Page 7). They also recommand that.

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Re: Heaters can we use snow?

Post by Treesuit » Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:54 am

Housil is right on this item. Do not use the water from inside the FRH. It does release some chemicals that are harmful though I don't know if it would cause diarrhea maybe an upset stomach.

Also "danke" Housil for that Amazon link to purchse that copy of "Canteen Cup Cookery" It was fun and well worth the money to get another copy of that. I would recommend to anyone to purchase a copy and have in their collection. Very good reading material. :wink:

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