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Post by shadowcamper1383 » Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:25 am

Alright, thanks guys!

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Re: International Shipping

Post by MCIera » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:35 pm

Ship it by UPS Standard (the Canadian equivilant of UPS Ground in the U.S.)
jfko6 wrote:I get requests to ship these oversees and across the border into Canada. After speaking to the USPS about shipping to Canada they said "we don't have ground transport to Canada." Therefore, shipping an FRH is illegal and not worth the attempt for a few measly dollars.

Homeland Security is very strict and will not tolerate any business. In as much as people forget we are at war noting the events of Nine-Eleven and the Anthrax scare makes the phrase "too damn bad" sound pretty reasonable.

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Post by jfko6 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:24 am

Turns out that shipping FRH's through UPS have their own rules which are no less stringent when it comes dealing with hazmat (which FRH's are). Using UPS to transport these items out of the bag requires making a declaration through UPS's hazardous materials department which is very expensive.

And those who have done it with out filling out the proper paper-work; To that I say "so what."
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Post by Big Galloot » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:40 am

First let me say that shipping hazardous goods internationally is something that needs to be done by professionals. The regulations and paperwork requirements are complicated and not intended to guide individuals wishing to send a goodies package to their Uncle Charlie in Manitoba.

I feel better having said that.

I did spend a little time on the Canadian Government's Transport Canada site to check out what occurs on their side of the border. On the page that covers IMPs and FRHs is the following; "IMP terminology varies depending on the country, the purpose and format and additional information may be found on the following website:
http://www.mreinfo.com/imps.html "


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The URL is http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/comme ... ces/24.htm
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Post by kman » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:48 am

Wow - that's pretty funny. :-)

It reminds me of the time I received an email from the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) asking me if it was ok for MREs with FRHs to be carried aboard civilian aircraft. I sent them a link to their own FAA study of just that question (where they basically said, no, they shouldn't be allowed in the cabin).

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FRH Rules and Regs

Post by jfko6 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:34 am

Big Galloot wrote:First let me say that shipping hazardous goods internationally is something that needs to be done by professionals. The regulations and paperwork requirements are complicated and not intended to guide individuals wishing to send a goodies package to their Uncle Charlie in Manitoba.

I feel better having said that.

I did spend a little time on the Canadian Government's Transport Canada site to check out what occurs on their side of the border. On the page that covers IMPs and FRHs is the following; "IMP terminology varies depending on the country, the purpose and format and additional information may be found on the following website:
http://www.mreinfo.com/imps.html"


The Canadian Government recognizes the Kman as authoritative!

The URL is http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/comme ... ces/24.htm
Big Galloot:
This was my point exactly as you described. A few notes: The link you hooked us up with in MREinfo is dead as of this writing. The USPS does not specify the FRH in the restricted hazardous materials which they should like our Canadian cousins.
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Re: FRH Rules and Regs

Post by kman » Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:46 am

jfko6 wrote:A few notes: The link you hooked us up with in MREinfo is dead as of this writing.
His quote included a trailing " at the end, which shouldn't be part of the URL. If you go to:

http://www.mreinfo.com/imps.html

the page will load fine. That's an old URL, by the way, but it still works and redirects you to the current page, which is:

http://www.mreinfo.com/international/ca ... n-imp.html

I'll fix Big Galloot's post. phpBB does this a lot when it automatically converts typed URLs into clickable URLs - it includes everything you type including punctuation until it sees a space. So:

http://www.mreinfo.com/imps.html"

doesn't work but

http://www.mreinfo.com/imps.html "

does.

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Post by Big Galloot » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:33 pm

Yo Dudes!

I was just quoting the Canadian guys. I wasn't expecting it to link.

But, thanks for the fix, Kman.
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