Italian MRE's

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Re: Italian MRE's

Post by Telemachus » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:39 pm

This one has Carabinieri in the description (which doesn't always mean anything).
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rare-italian ... SwzRlaS9Zy

Any ideas anybody?!
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Re: Italian MRE's

Post by Eistee » Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:18 pm

It appears to be an general Italian armed forces ration, no unique variant.

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Re: Italian MRE's

Post by DonJa » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:44 pm

Telemachus wrote:This one has Carabinieri in the description (which doesn't always mean anything).
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rare-italian ... SwzRlaS9Zy

Any ideas anybody?!
That there's no picture of the reverse or sticker on the front, with the lot and mfg. date is a little concerning.

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Re: Italian MRE's

Post by wats6831 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:56 pm

Telemachus wrote:This one has Carabinieri in the description (which doesn't always mean anything).
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rare-italian ... SwzRlaS9Zy

Any ideas anybody?!
This is a Carabinieri variant. The front is not always different. I have had Carabinieri units that the front was the same, and others that were different. Each year is a bit different.

The back is where the unique Carabinieri sticker will go.

The carabinieri units don't have the same lot and best buy stickers because they are produced in small batches for the Carabinieri, and usually not stored or stockpiled.

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Re: Italian MRE's

Post by DonJa » Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:53 pm

wats6831 wrote:
Telemachus wrote:This one has Carabinieri in the description (which doesn't always mean anything).
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rare-italian ... SwzRlaS9Zy

Any ideas anybody?!
This is a Carabinieri variant. The front is not always different. I have had Carabinieri units that the front was the same, and others that were different. Each year is a bit different.

The back is where the unique Carabinieri sticker will go.

The carabinieri units don't have the same lot and best buy stickers because they are produced in small batches for the Carabinieri, and usually not stored or stockpiled.
Haven't the Carabinieri rations been stickered for the last few years? The stickers have changed design a bit, but at a minimum usually contain lot no. and production date. Whenever I've seen Italian Army or Carabinieri rations where the sticker has been removed or defaced, and it's not mentioned in the description, it's a red flag.

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Re: Italian MRE's

Post by wats6831 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:02 pm

DonJa wrote:
wats6831 wrote:
Telemachus wrote:This one has Carabinieri in the description (which doesn't always mean anything).
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rare-italian ... SwzRlaS9Zy

Any ideas anybody?!
This is a Carabinieri variant. The front is not always different. I have had Carabinieri units that the front was the same, and others that were different. Each year is a bit different.

The back is where the unique Carabinieri sticker will go.

The carabinieri units don't have the same lot and best buy stickers because they are produced in small batches for the Carabinieri, and usually not stored or stockpiled.
Haven't the Carabinieri rations been stickered for the last few years? The stickers have changed design a bit, but at a minimum usually contain lot no. and production date. Whenever I've seen Italian Army or Carabinieri rations where the sticker has been removed or defaced, and it's not mentioned in the description, it's a red flag.
The back of the Carabinieri IS a sticker over the regular army back writing.

The past years had a different front as well, but the current Carabinieri front is the same as the regular front.

I've never seen a Carabinieri WITH a lot sticker. I get them directly from the members.

Lots of regular Italians have the sticker removed and/or defaced, and it is a red flag. I'd had probably 200 of them, and all of mine have had stickers except for a few.

Usually the sticker is removed so you can't 'see the best by date.

But some people say it's to get it off base. Well 99% of mine have gone off base with the sticker so I don't buy it.

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Re: Italian MRE's

Post by [ex-Member1] » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:35 pm

Watts can you post pictures with your explanations? Isn't Carabineri part of Italian Armed Forces so what makes this module B a Carabineri version? I thought Carabineri word is clear and visible not just on the bag but also on the boxes inside...

so this is Carabineri ration even it's marked as Armed Forces?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rare-italian ... SwzRlaS9Zy

what about this one?
https://www.ebay.it/itm/RAZIONE-K-ESERC ... SwW6BaBzmH

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Re: Italian MRE's

Post by wats6831 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:30 pm

Asger wrote:Watts can you post pictures with your explanations? Isn't Carabineri part of Italian Armed Forces so what makes this module B a Carabineri version? I thought Carabineri word is clear and visible not just on the bag but also on the boxes inside...

so this is Carabineri ration even it's marked as Armed Forces?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rare-italian ... SwzRlaS9Zy

what about this one?
https://www.ebay.it/itm/RAZIONE-K-ESERC ... SwW6BaBzmH
Yes the Carabinieri is a special unit for Embassy defense, VIP protection, Military and riot Police and one Airborne assault unit. They have their own rations because they are usually close to cities. The difference is there is no Esbit stove, no cordial, and a few other differences (minor).

This is what they used to look like last year:
IMG_20170407_081412.jpg
With the Carabinieri sticker on the back.

Now they just look like the regular army front with carabinieri sticker on the back.

Note B contents on back:
IMG-20170403-WA0008.jpg

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Re: Italian MRE's

Post by wats6831 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:34 pm

As you can see the front is the same for the Army no special bag anymore:
IMG_20170821_072012_073.jpg

The back is the sticker over the top for Carabinieri:
IMG_20170801_162324.jpg


and the boxes are Carabinieri:
IMG_20170810_105022.jpg

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Re: Italian MRE's

Post by [ex-Member1] » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:45 pm

Awesome, thanks for the time and info

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