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Postby DangerousDave » Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:59 pm

I was wondering about "Butter". Why has'nt the MRE wizard of Oz ever incorporated real butter or a butter substitute into MRE's? One time, when I was eating breakfast in the chow hall at Munsingen (French run Nato post in Southern Germany), there were these huge mounds of real butter on every table, just like salt and pepper. The idea was to take your butter knife(what a concept) and carve off a chunk of the butter to spread on ones toast, or just plain eat it, like I saw my Bn. CO do, just for a joke. Those Frenchies! They did have some real good Brat vendors also. :?:

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Postby Demoncase » Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:36 am

This is one of the real quandries from a food point of view:

Margarine was created as a long-life/ military butter substitue....but there is no real way of making the volatile oils within butter and marge remain stable for the required shelf life of MREs.

The short-chain esters and lipids oxidise very quickly, resulting in a rancid mess....And because marge/butter is naught but fat there are no things you can add to make it last longer without greatly changin flavour, consistency or food value.

Then add in operational requirements from the Artic to the Desert- in both extremes the marge would have to be a spread not a liquid or solid brick.

A real challenge for science....
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Postby housil » Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:24 pm

The german army (Bundeswehr) had some margarine in it´s rations (EPA´s) during the 1970-80 in a tooth-paste-similar tube.
But they also replaced it. I can remember to it. We had the margarine on the crackers and some jam on it (continetal breakfast :D ). We also opend the tin food containers before heating, put some margarine in to prevent the food from to burn while heating up on the flame cooker.

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Postby dirtbag » Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:35 pm

there IS a solution... Butter Powder!

http://waltonfeed.com/self/butter.html

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Postby Stef » Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:06 am

incredible! Next time, someone will find the way to make some water powder! :lol:

I confirm for the German EPA's margarine, I had some and it's was quite good.
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Postby housil » Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:19 am

Stef wrote:incredible! Next time, someone will find the way to make some water powder! :lol:

I confirm for the German EPA's margarine, I had some and it's was quite good.



Dehydrated water,

Instructions:
just add water....

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Postby DIRTYDAVE » Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:05 am

Stef wrote:incredible! Next time, someone will find the way to make some water powder! :lol:

I confirm for the German EPA's margarine, I had some and it's was quite good.


LMFAO, that is funny.
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Postby CaptBob » Sun Nov 19, 2006 5:04 pm

You want REAL butter? I found this site the othe day:

http://www.mrewholesalers.com/cannedbutterdetails.html

Real butter, in a can, from New Zealand.

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Postby olli » Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:34 am

there it is, the legend !! from german EPA of the early 90s...

25g PFLANZEN MAGARINE

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ok its not real butter, its made of plant fat, but very delicious with the crackers.....



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