WWII Logan Bar - Is it real or fake?

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Stilgarius
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WWII Logan Bar - Is it real or fake?

Post by Stilgarius » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:38 am

Hello!

I just came across this logan bar and Im really curious if its real or fake. I have heard of 2 ounces logan bars but never saw anything like this and I cant find any photo of bars like this. I also never saw logan bar with a name "Logan emergency bar" in the front - all 2 ounces d-bars have typical "U.S. ARMY FIELD RATION D" name.
Here I found a lot of random 2 ounces d-bars but none of them looks like this one in attachment: http://www.kration.info/d-bar-sweet-chocolateand.html

Any information or any contact to an expert would greatly help me, thanks in advance!
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Re: WWII Logan Bar - Is it real or fake?

Post by cavguy » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:51 am

I saw on of these for sale by 1944Supply.com for like 150 Euro, they claimed it was recently found in Normandy..

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/ ... nt=safari

In my opinion I do not think either is original, as I would expect much more wear to the wrapper and ink due to age! I mean it looks like the ink was printed yesterday.

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Re: WWII Logan Bar - Is it real or fake?

Post by Richard w. » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:42 pm

Did Logan Bars even come in a 2 oz. Size?

I've only ever heard of a 4 oz. portion.

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Re: WWII Logan Bar - Is it real or fake?

Post by Stilgarius » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:05 am

Yes, 2 ounces and even 1 ounces bars were a real thing.
2 ounces D-Bar + 2 ounces mold:
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Re: WWII Logan Bar - Is it real or fake?

Post by Stilgarius » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:27 am

I have found a lot of new informations.
http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ ... d-rations/
A 2014 post
"Logan, the bar that started it all" with attached photo
And I also get another photo from the 1944supply seller of another Logan Emergency Bar (attached pic) [Really nice seller, send me a lot more informations]

The more I look the more information I find about these Logan Bars with printed "Logan Emergency Bar" on the top - They are really unique and unknown compared to the og "U.S. FIELD ARMY RATION D" ones. I sent mail to National Archives and Hershey archives and to my WWII Ration friend, if I get any more info I will send it back - It looks really promising.
btw - The printing looks really nice and "fresh" on the photo but in the reality you can see how old the paper and inside is so do the "ink" and letters.
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Re: WWII Logan Bar - Is it real or fake?

Post by Richard w. » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:11 am

Stilgarius wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:05 am
Yes, 2 ounces and even 1 ounces bars were a real thing.
2 ounces D-Bar + 2 ounces mold:
The mold is fantastic. Thanks for the information.

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Re: WWII Logan Bar - Is it real or fake?

Post by kration » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:59 am

That Logan Bar is 100 % real but weather it was "found in Normandy " who knows.. lol..

More likely that it came out of a WW2 Lifeboat ration..

Many years ago there was an old Army Surplus down in Florida that was full of the Gray 1945 dated WW2 Lifeboat rations.. There were hundreds scattered among the upper floors of the building... These contained cans of Pemmican, Malted Milk Tablets, C Square Biscuits and 2oz D Rations.. and yes.. some did contain the "Logan" Bars. Most of the Chocolate contents had swelled and turned to powder just as the example shown has. I should know, I opened enough of them ha ha.

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Re: WWII Logan Bar - Is it real or fake?

Post by Richard w. » Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:16 pm

Not calling anyone a liar, but it is very common in militaria collecting circles to claim that something was recently "found in a barn in Normandy" to sex up a sales post for deep-pocketed American buyers.

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Re: WWII Logan Bar - Is it real or fake?

Post by cavguy » Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:19 pm

Richard w. wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:16 pm
Not calling anyone a liar, but it is very common in militaria collecting circles to claim that something was recently "found in a barn in Normandy" to sex up a sales post for deep-pocketed American buyers.
Agreed! This one would 100% need a hands on. No way to tell from pics.

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Re: WWII Logan Bar - Is it real or fake?

Post by OtisRNeedleman » Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:39 pm

The D rations used by the Army would have been called just that. They would not have been called Logan Bars. My guess - a commercial product. Hard to think many were sold. Colonel Logan formulated the chocolate so it wasn't real sweet and eaten as a candy bar. He wanted the bar to taste "just better than a boiled potato".

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